[Vision2020] Minor Consumption of Alcohol

[Donovan Arnold]

Tim,

And that is why I said, "As any person with a brain
knows,. . ." It is called a "qualifier".

If "children and adolescents have the right to grow
up" I suggest you exercise that right and not go
around bashing the faith of over 1.2 billion people.
Either that or zip it up because your bigotry is
showing. 

Donovan J Arnold




--- TIM RIGSBY <tim.rigsby at hotmail.com> wrote:

> Donovan states that:
> 
> "As any person with a brain knows, anti-alcoholic
> policies are established to prevent minors from
> being
> intoxicated, hurting themselves, others hurting
> them,
> or preventing possible brain damage or death. It is
> not meant for the purposes of preventing communion.
> Alcohol is not a BAD thing when taken in small
> doses.
> Millions of children consume alcohol in communion,
> in
> medicine, and other religious practices everyday
> with
> positive effects."
> 
> Well Donovan, according to the World Health
> Organization,
>             "All children and adolescents have the
> right to grow up in an 
> environment protected from   the negative
> consequences of alcohol 
> consumption and, to the extent possible, from the
> promotion of alcoholic 
> beverages."
> 
> So by allowing alcohol to be consumed in mass are we
> not promoting alcohol 
> consumption?
> 
> WHO continues with,
>            "Young people are more vulnerable to
> suffering physical, 
> emotional and social harm from their own or other
> peoples' drinking."
> 
> Granted this could be argued that WHO is reffereing
> to binge drinking, but 
> without the explicit definition of what "their
> drinking" means, we can 
> assume that any amount of alcohol poses a threat to
> young people.
> 
> And more from WHO,
>            "The health and wellbeing of many young
> people today are being 
> seriously threatened by the use of alcohol and other
> psychoactive 
> substances. From a public health perspective, the
> message is clear: there is 
> no scientific evidence for a safe limit of alcohol
> consumption, and 
> particularly not for children and young adolescents,
> the most vulnerable 
> groups."
> 
> THERE IS NO SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE FOR A SAFE LIMIT OF
> ALCOHOL CONSUMPTION.  So 
> does this mean that a little sip of wine could be a
> safe limit?  According 
> to WHO, there is not safe limit of alcohol
> consumption.
> 
> WHO seems to think that children and young people
> are the most vunerable for 
> alcohol use.  Does it seem appropriate then for
> children to consume wine at 
> mass at a young age?  I know how I got hooked on the
> sauce in high school, 
> it started at Catholic Church.  Nothing better than
> Father Carlos' cheap red 
> wine.  Then again, maybe the wine was around to take
> advantage of young 
> boys, ooh that was a low blow.
> 
> Tim
> 
> World Health Organization, 
> http://www.euro.who.int/AboutWHO/Policy/20030204_1
> 
> P.S. Donovan, you state that 50-80% of Americans
> beleive in the same values 
> and principles as Christ Church.  Did you make this
> number up or is there 
> research behind your claim.  Generally speaking when
> people make claims in 
> the nutrition field, the product they are promoting
> is bogus.  Could this 
> idea be applied to your claim of 50-80% as well?  Or
> is there peer reveiwed 
> research to support your claim?  Just a couple of
> questions about your 
> information thats all.
> 
>
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