[Vision2020] an open letter -- What's That? Are you serious?

Donovan Arnold donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com
Mon Jun 13 17:13:59 PDT 2005


Mr. Meyer,

You made the following allegations against CCers, "The
fact that  Christ Church representatives who benefit
from tax breaks publicly support  the idea that whole
groups of people are lower than them and that violence
against those people is somehow god's intent IS a
community issue"

Those are pretty serious charges Mr. Meyer!

Can you back your statement that Christ Church is
preaching that individuals commit violence against
other community members?

Has Christ Church, or any member(s) of Christ Church
acting on behalf of Christ Church, EVER physically
assault another member of this community?


Donovan J Arnold




--- Jim Meyer <m1e2y3e4 at moscow.com> wrote:

> All,
> 
> Why don't we just stick with the facts instead of
> arguing about intended 
> meanings of famous sayings?
> 
> The facts are:
>     1. Christ Church and its related business
> ventures hide several 
> publishing efforts with gross profits of close to 1
> million 
> dollars--just for one of those businesses. This is a
> documentable fact 
> that can be found in county records. The fact that
> these businesses 
> exist is not an issue. The fact that these business
> ventures ask the 
> community for tax breaks IS a community issue.
> 
>     2. That fact that Doug Wilson is both permanent
> Trustee and Trustor 
> of  New St. Andrews and that he hires family members
> is not a community 
> issue. That New St. Andrews has a religious test for
> admission also is 
> not a community issue. The fact that tax breaks are
> requested from the 
> community for an organization that is not clearly
> proven non-profit  IS 
> a community issue.
>  
>    3. The fact that the representatives of Christ
> Church believe things 
> that many of us don't like, or even that we think
> unchristian,  is not 
> an issue.The fact that  Christ Church
> representatives who benefit from 
> tax breaks publicly support  the idea that whole
> groups of people are 
> lower than them and that violence against those
> people is somehow god's 
> intent IS a community issue, especially when church
> resources are used 
> to advance their political candidates.
> 
> The community has every right, even an obligation to
> examine Christ 
> Church and it's associated businesses in light of
> their asking for and 
> receiving tax benefits. For the community to ask
> Christ Church to follow 
> existing law is not even remotely comparable to
> persecution of those of 
> Jewish faith. As someone who lost 1/8 of my family
> tree due to 
> persecution, I take tremendous and deep offense to
> such a comparison.
> 
> Jim Meyer
> 
>
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