[Vision2020] Domenstic Benefits?

[Dick Schmidt]

They probably should charge Donovan more in taxes because he probably won't 
be having kids.

I go down to the stores that sell birth control and poke holes in the 
condoms to ensure we have more kids to keep paying in so I can keep 
collecting my social security!

Dick Schmidt


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Phil Nisbet" <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com>
To: <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Thursday, June 02, 2005 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Domenstic Benefits?


> Don
>
> Yes, we do get a benefit for the kids, but the kids actually work that off 
> because they end up paying taxes when the time comes.  If nobdoy was 
> coming up behind us, there sure as shooting would be no Social Security 
> and the rest of the services we expect would not be there once we retire 
> if nobody was working and paying taxes.
>
> But other than that, I think we are in agreement.
>
> Phil
>
>>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>>To: Phil Nisbet <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Domenstic Benefits?
>>Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:26:06 -0700 (PDT)
>>
>>Phil,
>>
>>I do not agree with your remarks regarding single
>>parents tax status.
>>
>>If you are a parent, you get to write off $1000s of
>>dollars in expenses per child.
>>
>>For every dollar you do not pay, I have to pay to make
>>up for it.
>>
>>I do agree that taxes should be the same for every
>>dollar you make after a certain amount (over poverty
>>level) regardless of martial status, but also
>>regardless of children. Because in all honesty, why
>>should I have to pay my portion of the taxes plus
>>yours because you choose to have children?
>>
>>Your solution of taking away everyone's benefits
>>instead of giving everyone equal benefits would also
>>be equal and fair. However, I think that would be a
>>destructive way of equalizing out employment
>>conditions.
>>
>>Donovan J Arnold
>>
>>--- Phil Nisbet <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > Don
>> >
>> > I do not think that we actually disagree that much.
>> > Only in this one would
>> > I find fault;
>> >
>> > ">To me, this translates to less pay for the same
>> > work.
>> > >If a married man with kids gets his premium of $150
>> > a
>> > >month paid by a company, but the gay guy only gets
>> > a
>> > >$50 premium paid because he is with a man, instead
>> > of
>> > >a woman, that is $100 less a month in compensation
>> > he
>> > >is getting because of sexual orientation that has
>> > >nothing to do with the job. In essence, they are
>> > >saying if you are gay, you get punished, if you are
>> > >heterosexual, you get rewarded."
>> >
>> > Actually at this point there are a ton of single
>> > parents who are very much
>> > hetrosexual who are getting taxed to help pay for
>> > the life styles of married
>> > hetrosexuals.  They vote, but get forgotten.
>> >
>> > Phil
>> >
>> >
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