[Vision2020] Domenstic Benefits?

Phil Nisbet pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com
Thu Jun 2 11:35:53 PDT 2005


Don

Yes, we do get a benefit for the kids, but the kids actually work that off 
because they end up paying taxes when the time comes.  If nobdoy was coming 
up behind us, there sure as shooting would be no Social Security and the 
rest of the services we expect would not be there once we retire if nobody 
was working and paying taxes.

But other than that, I think we are in agreement.

Phil

>From: Donovan Arnold <donovanjarnold2005 at yahoo.com>
>To: Phil Nisbet <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Domenstic Benefits?
>Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 11:26:06 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Phil,
>
>I do not agree with your remarks regarding single
>parents tax status.
>
>If you are a parent, you get to write off $1000s of
>dollars in expenses per child.
>
>For every dollar you do not pay, I have to pay to make
>up for it.
>
>I do agree that taxes should be the same for every
>dollar you make after a certain amount (over poverty
>level) regardless of martial status, but also
>regardless of children. Because in all honesty, why
>should I have to pay my portion of the taxes plus
>yours because you choose to have children?
>
>Your solution of taking away everyone's benefits
>instead of giving everyone equal benefits would also
>be equal and fair. However, I think that would be a
>destructive way of equalizing out employment
>conditions.
>
>Donovan J Arnold
>
>--- Phil Nisbet <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Don
> >
> > I do not think that we actually disagree that much.
> > Only in this one would
> > I find fault;
> >
> > ">To me, this translates to less pay for the same
> > work.
> > >If a married man with kids gets his premium of $150
> > a
> > >month paid by a company, but the gay guy only gets
> > a
> > >$50 premium paid because he is with a man, instead
> > of
> > >a woman, that is $100 less a month in compensation
> > he
> > >is getting because of sexual orientation that has
> > >nothing to do with the job. In essence, they are
> > >saying if you are gay, you get punished, if you are
> > >heterosexual, you get rewarded."
> >
> > Actually at this point there are a ton of single
> > parents who are very much
> > hetrosexual who are getting taxed to help pay for
> > the life styles of married
> > hetrosexuals.  They vote, but get forgotten.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> >
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