[Spam] RE: [Vision2020] Grunt's-Eye View

[Matt Decker]

John D has posted a few recent "blogs" in regard to a service persons pride 
and commitment towards their service. I have watched from afar only because 
i do not wish to get commited into a downward spiral of name bashing and 
hypocricy. I believe i have waited long enough. Granted I shouldn't be 
writing this with emotion driving me, but John without US you wouldn't be 
saying this.

Mr D. (is this John Dickinson) has stated, and I am paraphasing, that he 
doesn't see why a person should be proud of their service. He also blabs 
about how he doesn't understand a "volunteer force" and he doesn't see any 
merit too that.

Why don't you say that to a wwII vet or god forbid a relative if they had 
joined? Not only are 18 year old kids doing this for you, but they are doing 
a good deed by defending our great nation. Damn right these kids are proud 
why shouldn't they. Yes the military is for our protection and sometimes 
that intales killing. I hope that the leaders of our country will use our 
children wisely. Regardless, our military is very committed,and with 
anything that you put your heart sole into , you will be proud.

John I have served and by the sounds of it I am probably one of the younger 
members here. I did serve 4 years in the Marines, and no I thankfully did 
not go to war. However, I do have close friends that are or have been to 
Iraq. I can only thank the Mr. Hansens and Mr. Kaags of the world that have 
defended this country. I don't give a rats poop whether you agree with any 
war that we are in, we should all have a support our troops sticker on the 
back of our car regarless.

Mr. D if you really want to know the answer to your question, try your local 
marine core office in pullman. Until then please don't question "our" pride.


>From: lfalen <lfalen at turbonet.com>
>To: "John D" <johnd550 at yahoo.com>, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: [Spam] RE: [Vision2020] Grunt's-Eye View
>Date: Mon,  5 Dec 2005 11:54:54 -0800
>
>Tom Hasen has every reason to be proud of his service to our County. 
>Today's Military is volintary. I spent 3 years in the Army, He spent a good 
>share of his life in the Army and should be honored for it. I do not agree 
>will a lot of his political positions, but that is beside the point. I feel 
>that a lot of people on the left are misguided, but still good people.
>
>Roger
>-----Original message-----
>From: John D johnd550 at yahoo.com
>Date: Sat,  3 Dec 2005 13:05:08 -0800
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: [Spam] RE: [Vision2020] Grunt's-Eye View
>
> > Tom Hansen <thansen at moscow.com> wrote:
> >
> >   > I am a disably retired Army veteran and EXTREMELY proud of my 
>service.
> >   > Tell us, Ms. Kraut. What have you done for your country lately?
> >
> >   Can you help me understand why you are proud of having been in the  
>military? I personally see a lot of negative things when it comes to  the 
>military. Anyone can join up for a volunteer force, so I don't see  much 
>merit there. If there is a draft, the choice is not yours at all.  In the 
>military, you train to kill people, or worse, actually kill  them. You 
>operate in an authoritarian system. Finally, the military  uses/wastes an 
>enormous amount of society's resources.
> >
> >
> >
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