[Vision2020] And another incendary grenade tossed upon the fire

[Phil Nisbet]

Keely

Strange, the Idaho Democratic Central Committee has the Jefferson-Jackson 
Banquet Committee listed quite nicely on its formal filings with the Idaho 
Secretary of State’s Office as being a major fund raiser for the Party in 
this state.  So a Banquet in honor of Andrew Jackson would seem to be 
exactly what I was talking about.  It even notes that right here in Latah 
County they seem to be holding that event.  Did you miss it?

Phil Nisbet

And BTW great that you condemn events that honor that particular racist.  
Maybe you ought to talk to fellow Democrats and get them to change the name 
of your annual banquet.



>From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
>To: pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] And another incendary grenade tossed upon the 
>fire
>Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 07:54:08 -0700
>
>I come from a family of staunch Democrats, Phil.  Our house was always rife 
>with politics and commentary, and my parents' friends were union 
>organizers, civil rights workers, NAACP comrades, educators and peace 
>activists.  My grandfather, father and I were journalists; they were renown 
>for their newspaper columns about the Democratic Party and its doings, good 
>or bad.  Both of my parents are still active in the Democratic Party in 
>Tucson.
>
>Not once in my 44 years have I heard of "Jackson Day" in honor of Andrew 
>Jackson.  Not there, not here, not anywhere.  Further, no one I know would 
>passively accept the remarks of Woodrow Wilson, either as quaint evidence 
>of his times, or as a manifesto for the Party.  Frankly, the Democrats I 
>was raised with, and the ones I know now, consider Jackson and Wilson as 
>relevant to their activism as Laurel and Hardy.  The folks I know and grew 
>up with have pictures of Cesar Chavez, JFK, Dr. King, Susan B. Anthony and 
>Medgar Evers in their offices.
>
>Some Democrats are and have been undeniably racist, as have some members of 
>my own family.  Others are just obnoxious, ignorant and petty.  But such 
>aren't the tenets of the Democratic Party, and if you would like to 
>consider this a denunciation of Jacksonian/Wilsonian racial bigotry from a 
>Democrat, you're welcome to.
>
>keely emerine mix
>
>
>From: "Phil Nisbet" <pcnisbet1 at hotmail.com>
>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: [Vision2020] And another incendary grenade tossed upon the fire
>Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2005 06:06:46 -0700
>
>I have recently read the interesting denigration of some folk’s espousal of 
>Robert E Lee as a possible role model and found the whole thing fairly 
>interesting.
>
>If we are to take the idea a little further, then of course we should look 
>at a number of organizations and try to see who exactly idealizes whom.
>
>So if for an example, a group or organization were to idealize and make 
>heroic reference to a known racist who had been specifically responsible 
>for say genocide, would that group receive similar condemnation?  What if 
>that same group still found heroic a neo-Confederate who was endorsed by 
>the KKK and who had sponsored complete segregation in all public 
>facilities?
>
>And should we condemn a group whose chief would say, “…Negroes should 
>expect to be treated as a servile race.”  Or one who would tell a black 
>that "segregation is not a humiliation but a benefit, and ought to be so 
>regarded by you gentlemen."?
>
>Because last I checked, the local Democratic Party still holds a Jackson 
>day.  Andrew Jackson was a slave owner, a racist and was the man who 
>condemned tribes to the Trail of Tears.  He is commonly held out as an 
>example of what a good Democrat should be.
>
>And the KKKer who gave us National Jim Crow, who had Dixie played at his 
>innagrial ball was none other than Woodrow Wilson.  Wilson is still held 
>out as the ultimate Progressive, yet he had the provisions for Racial 
>Equality stricken from the League of Nations Charter.
>
>Oppose that the Lee’s statement to President Pierce, “There are few, I 
>believe, in this enlightened age, who will not acknowledge that slavery as 
>an institution is a moral and political evil. It is idle to expatiate on 
>its disadvantages. I think it is a greater evil to the white than to the 
>colored race.”
>
>As one whose relatives fought on the Union side in the Civil War and were 
>distinguished for their service in it, I think I an fairly say that Lee’s 
>failure to support the Union was a terrible choice and he should be and was 
>found guilty for it.  But as a man, he was a far better person than the 
>ravening racists Jackson and Wilson and I would rather see people emulate 
>him than either of those two rascals.  At the very least, he never 
>committed genocide.
>
>So can I get Tom Hansen’s round condemnation for the use of Andrew Jackson 
>as a role model?  Is it possible to see a segment of Not on the Palouse Not 
>Ever devoted to a round of condemnation for groups who hold dinners in that 
>bigoted mass murderers honor?
>
>>From Horseshoe Bend to the Trail of Tears, to the slave cabins at the
>Hermitage, surely painting a rosy picture of that man deserve deserves a 
>serious cat call.  How about it Tom?
>
>Phil Nisbet
>
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