[Vision2020] Pope Benedict XVI: One Giant Step BackwardsforHumankind

[Carl Westberg]

Warning: the following is a totally lame, inane and sophomoric attempt at 
word play.  Discretion is advised.  This is your last chance to turn away.  
So, you have a problem with Pope Benedict, Arnold?  You were warned.         
                                                                             
                                                                             
                                                                             
                                     Carl Westberg Jr.

>From: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanarnold at hotmail.com>
>To: dave at davebudge.com, ophite at gmail.com
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com, DonaldH675 at aol.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Pope Benedict XVI: One Giant Step 
>BackwardsforHumankind
>Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:01:50 -0700
>
>Mr. Budge,
>
>It is not that he was a Nazi youth, and later Nazi Solider, or the fact 
>that he is anti-gay, anti-women, anti-birth control, or protected 
>pedophiles from their crimes.
>
>It is that he is totally completely closed to any change whatsoever or 
>allowing any dialogue, discussion, or consideration of any other issues. He 
>is not even open to allowing priests to marry which is not even a 
>traditional beliefs of the church.
>
>We know we can leave the church. But that is not that point. The point is 
>that he may drive people away from the church and God. Churches are suppose 
>to do the opposite. They are suppose to bring people to God, not scare them 
>away. That should be a concern for any Christian.
>
>No reasonable person expected women to be ordained as priests tomorrow. 
>However, they would at least like to discuss it and maybe the possibility 
>that Gays and Lesbians might be people too without being excommunicated.
>
>Take Care,
>
>Donovan J Arnold
>
>>From: "David M. Budge" <dave at davebudge.com>
>>To: Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com>
>>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com, "DonaldH675 at aol.com" <DonaldH675 at aol.com>,      
>>   donovanarnold at hotmail.com
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Pope Benedict XVI: One Giant Step Backwards 
>>forHumankind
>>Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:53:24 +0000
>>
>>OK, you're gunna make me argue this one aren't you. Holding him out as a 
>>"Nazi sympathizer" for what he was conscripted into doing 65 years ago is 
>>nonsense.  Else we should be holding Robert Byrd out as a Klansman.
>>
>>Secondly, if you don't like the doctrine and dogma of Catholicism you're 
>>welcome to leave the Church. Luther did.
>>
>>I'm not a Catholic, but thinking the Catholic Church will capitulate 
>>towards a progressive theology is ridiculous.  I'm willing to give the guy 
>>the benefit of the doubt.  If you can't, breath into a brown paper bag.  
>>It'll help.
>>
>>db
>>
>>Andreas Schou wrote:
>>
>>>On 4/19/05, DonaldH675 at aol.com <DonaldH675 at aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Thanks ACS.  It was one of the first questions that popped into my mind. 
>>>>Does he offer an explanation for his membership in the Nazi Youth, or 
>>>>was it
>>>>just "one of those things".
>>>>R
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Dave's overview of Ratzinger's involvement with the Nazis is
>>>reasonably correct, though filtered through the lens of his
>>>hagiographic biography. I'd only single out one fact for disagreement,
>>>though: deserting the German Army in 1944 was all the rage. Everyone
>>>who was anyone was doing it. It was your choice: desert or get shot by
>>>Russians.
>>>
>>>Ratzinger's moral cowardice in the face of the greatest atrocity of
>>>the 20th century, frankly, disqualifies him for a position dispensing
>>>moral dictates. Plus his "letter of advice" to American bishops
>>>instructing them to deny Communion to pro-choice American politicians
>>>is as abominable as it is theologically unjustifiable.
>>>
>>>-- ACS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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