[Vision2020] Pope Benedict XVI: One Giant Step Backwards forHumankind

[Donovan Arnold]

Mr. Budge,

It is not that he was a Nazi youth, and later Nazi Solider, or the fact that 
he is anti-gay, anti-women, anti-birth control, or protected pedophiles from 
their crimes.

It is that he is totally completely closed to any change whatsoever or 
allowing any dialogue, discussion, or consideration of any other issues. He 
is not even open to allowing priests to marry which is not even a 
traditional beliefs of the church.

We know we can leave the church. But that is not that point. The point is 
that he may drive people away from the church and God. Churches are suppose 
to do the opposite. They are suppose to bring people to God, not scare them 
away. That should be a concern for any Christian.

No reasonable person expected women to be ordained as priests tomorrow. 
However, they would at least like to discuss it and maybe the possibility 
that Gays and Lesbians might be people too without being excommunicated.

Take Care,

Donovan J Arnold

>From: "David M. Budge" <dave at davebudge.com>
>To: Andreas Schou <ophite at gmail.com>
>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com, "DonaldH675 at aol.com" <DonaldH675 at aol.com>,       
>  donovanarnold at hotmail.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Pope Benedict XVI: One Giant Step Backwards 
>forHumankind
>Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 13:53:24 +0000
>
>OK, you're gunna make me argue this one aren't you. Holding him out as a 
>"Nazi sympathizer" for what he was conscripted into doing 65 years ago is 
>nonsense.  Else we should be holding Robert Byrd out as a Klansman.
>
>Secondly, if you don't like the doctrine and dogma of Catholicism you're 
>welcome to leave the Church. Luther did.
>
>I'm not a Catholic, but thinking the Catholic Church will capitulate 
>towards a progressive theology is ridiculous.  I'm willing to give the guy 
>the benefit of the doubt.  If you can't, breath into a brown paper bag.  
>It'll help.
>
>db
>
>Andreas Schou wrote:
>
>>On 4/19/05, DonaldH675 at aol.com <DonaldH675 at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Thanks ACS.  It was one of the first questions that popped into my mind. 
>>>Does he offer an explanation for his membership in the Nazi Youth, or was 
>>>it
>>>just "one of those things".
>>>R
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Dave's overview of Ratzinger's involvement with the Nazis is
>>reasonably correct, though filtered through the lens of his
>>hagiographic biography. I'd only single out one fact for disagreement,
>>though: deserting the German Army in 1944 was all the rage. Everyone
>>who was anyone was doing it. It was your choice: desert or get shot by
>>Russians.
>>
>>Ratzinger's moral cowardice in the face of the greatest atrocity of
>>the 20th century, frankly, disqualifies him for a position dispensing
>>moral dictates. Plus his "letter of advice" to American bishops
>>instructing them to deny Communion to pro-choice American politicians
>>is as abominable as it is theologically unjustifiable.
>>
>>-- ACS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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