[Vision2020] The Nuclear Option (re: School Levy)
cjs
cjs at turbonet.com
Fri Apr 15 21:24:48 PDT 2005
Maybe we could have a meeting BEFORE the vote?
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From: "J Ford" privatejf32 at hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:36:28 -0700
To: kjajmix1 at msn.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Nuclear Option (re: School Levy)
> Thanks for letting me know(did it change from when the MDS calendar was
> printed?) Sorry for the mistake. :)
>
> Please, everyone that has any kind of interest in MSD, feel free to attend.
> It IS your school board. Even though the meeting is AFTER the vote, there
> are plenty of items that need your attention and support. For those
> speaking about tax payers monies, this is a good place to start getting
> involved. The remodel and construction will still be an important place for
> everyone to continue showing their positive interest in the schools.
>
> Again, sorry for the mix-up on the dates.
>
>
>
> >From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
> >To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Nuclear Option (re: School Levy)
> >Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:29:26 -0700
> >
> >Thanks, J -- but the next board meeting is Thursday the 28th.
> >
> >keely
> >
> >From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> >To: kjajmix1 at msn.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Nuclear Option (re: School Levy)
> >Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:54:23 -0700
> >
> >Thank you, Ms. Keely.
> >
> >Will we see you at the next meeting, Mr.s Phil and Arnold? It is on April
> >25 at 7pm.
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: "keely emerinemix" <kjajmix1 at msn.com>
> >>To: donovanarnold at hotmail.com, privatejf32 at hotmail.com,
> >>vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Nuclear Option (re: School Levy)
> >>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 18:45:20 -0700
> >>
> >>
> >>The MSD website's facilities section has 22 links to information. The
> >>district has put out information (not campaign material) about the process
> >>and the bond over the course of the FPC's work. My facilities file is
> >>five inches thick; not one document is secret. The website's facilities
> >>section has been continually updated. The FPC has produced a number of
> >>articles and handouts about the process and the bond. I wrote a few of
> >>them. You may have just received the MSD newsletter, School Connections,
> >>with several pages of facilities/bond info. Many folks, myself included,
> >>have attended MSD and/or FPC public forums, open houses, and worksessions
> >>about the bond and the process leading up to it. All were well advertised.
> >> CQE recently produced a flyer about the bond, including a "did they
> >>consider?" section for the FAQ connoisseurs among us. I and Dr. Donicht
> >>and many others have given numerous radio and newspaper interviews. And,
> >>as you all know, I've spent a bit of time lately on Vision 2020, trying to
> >>answer questions.
> >>
> >>The inclination of some to not avail themselves of information regarding
> >>the bond does not equal a disinclination on the part of the district to
> >>operate with integrity. On the contrary, if we're trying to stonewall,
> >>then I'd say we're doing a damned poor job of it.
> >>
> >>keely
> >>
> >>But we're not. It's been there, it is there, and
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>From: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanarnold at hotmail.com>
> >>To: privatejf32 at hotmail.com, vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Nuclear Option (re: School Levy)
> >>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 17:27:57 -0700
> >>
> >>Humm, perhaps that is because the MSD did not create a website that had
> >>FAQ. If you did that, you would not be asked 500 questions.
> >>
> >>When your plan is unclear, documents are not available, and you ask for a
> >>lot of money, "You should been there" does not tow the line for a "yes"
> >>vote. And even if it is passed, we still want to know the answers, it is
> >>our money.
> >>
> >>When the Graduate Students at UI have a big proposal we create a website
> >>with questions and background about the issue. Let people look at
> >>everything and ask questions. We also do not say question are stupid.
> >>Because when we do that, it makes other people fearful to ask questions.
> >>Then we never get the questions we should be asked. Rule number one is if
> >>one person asks a question, ten others are thinking the same thing.
> >>
> >>If your are getting 500 questions and they are the same 500 questions,
> >>that ought to say something about the planning and dispersion of
> >>information, not the people asking the questions.
> >>
> >>Take Care,
> >>
> >>Donovan J Arnold
> >>
> >>>From: "J Ford" <privatejf32 at hotmail.com>
> >>>To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Nuclear Option (re: School Levy)
> >>>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:59:02 -0700
> >>>
> >>>Ya know, maybe since questions are being asked and answers ARE being
> >>>given but not listened to perhaps this needs to end. The questions below
> >>>have been repeatedly answered - I believe the problem is they are not the
> >>>answers being sought. It's kinda like a conspiracy theory that keeps
> >>>coming up regarding such things as Kennedy, or aliens amongst us, etc.
> >>>No matter how many times the facts are presented, if the person is not
> >>>willing to see what is there as being there, it isn't. Make sence?
> >>>Neither does this mess.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>From: "Shelly" <CJs at Turbonet.com>
> >>>>To: <auntiestablishment at hotmail.com>
> >>>>CC: vision2020 at moscow.com
> >>>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Nuclear Option (re: School Levy)
> >>>>Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 14:45:06 -0700 (Pacific Standard Time)
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Dear Visionaries:
> >>>>
> >>>>.......great investigative reporting by Phil "Gumshoe" Roderick and Jack
> >>>>Doc Holliday" Wenders about those notorious Palouse gangsters, Keely
> >>>>"Baby
> >>>>Face" Mix and the Trail family mafia.
> >>>>
> >>>>No need for name calling Joan. We are all bigger than that.
> >>>>
> >>>>"There is NO $29mil remodel of the high school. The $29mil is for the
> >>>>ENTIRE
> >>>>remodel/buidling project which includes two elementary schools and the
> >>>>high
> >>>>school and the new high school If you want a break-down of that, then
> >>>>you
> >>>>need say so. BTW, that has been supplied to the newspapers, in
> >>>>newsletters,
> >>>>
> >>>>is available at the District Office and was very available on Saturday
> >>>>in
> >>>>the form of the individual handouts that the architect had for
> >>>>everyone's
> >>>>convenience. Did you not get a copy of those? I am sure if you went to
> >>>>the
> >>>>
> >>>>District Office and asked NICELY they would direct you to the material.
> >>>>I
> >>>>believe they are/will be available at the individual schools also."
> >>>>
> >>>>It is broken down on the new high school how about the old high school
> >>>>remodel. " That is what we keep asking for. Over and over and over.
> >>>>Without
> >>>>getting answers it does look like a cartel and acts like one. Maybe you
> >>>>could ask and see if they tell you anything different? Ask exactly what
> >>>>I
> >>>>asked them for.
> >>>>
> >>>>1) "I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A COST BREAKDOWN FROM THE ARCHITECT OF THE
> >>>>20,500
> >>>>000.00 "REMODEL" OF THE EXISTING HIGH SCHOOL."
> >>>>
> >>>>2) "I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE "DIRECTIVE" FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD TO THE
> >>>>ARCHITECT "DIRECTING" HOW THE BID IS TO BE DONE."
> >>>>
> >>>>..................Once the bond is approved, is there any particular
> >>>>reason
> >>>>we can't begin a fresh argument over where to locate it? NO so if you go> >>>>into the grocery store and none of the prices are posted and you pick up
> >>>>everything you need and throw it in your shopping cart and ya get to the
> >>>>cash register and ya find out ya only have enough money for half of what
> >>>>ya
> >>>>got.
> >>>>
> >>>>Yes, this is sad that the elementary schools will lose out on the levy
> >>>>because of wanting a new high school. Maybe they should just ask for a
> >>>>levy
> >>>>on the elementary schools and not the high school? I bet the vote might
> >>>>be
> >>>>different. I understand the way the levy is written they can move the
> >>>>money
> >>>>anywhere they seem fit. So - we are not guaranteed any money is going to
> >>>>the
> >>>>elementary schools, period.
> >>>>
> >>>>Also -- and this is a big also -- here's the complete 411 on this levy:
> >>>>West
> >>>>Park and Russell are crumbling. They're inadequate. It is my
> >>>>understanding
> >>>>that they are not in compliance with the ADA. What's more, it would be
> >>>>cheaper by far to scrap them both and build a new elementary school at
> >>>>the
> >>>>Joseph Street site So why don't we?
> >>>>
> >>>>Next levy.
> >>>>
> >>>>Well, I'd say it's because the Moscow School Board is sensitive to the
> >>>>emotional and aesthetic attachment many of us feel for West Park and/or
> >>>>Russell. (With regard to Russell in particular, its aesthetic appeal,
> >>>>history and location seem to be of paramount concern to many. And I'm
> >>>>glad
> >>>>for this. I think Russell is a beautiful school, and it would pain me
> >>>>to
> >>>>lose it.)
> >>>>
> >>>>Pains me to lose the aesthetically pleasing high school.
> >>>>
> >>>>.............disingenuous, disinformation websites like
> >>>>www.moscowlevy.com
> >>>>and www.moscoweducation.org.
> >>>>
> >>>>I see nothing but honesty and integrity from both of these websites. No
> >>>>dog
> >>>>and pony show. Just the facts.
> >>>>
> >>>>You know there might be plenty of money already in the school coffer.
> >>>>How
> >>>>come the school board is not prudently using our tax money to help these
> >>>>poor elementary schools?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Just asking for the facts. Nothing more. Is the truth insulting?
> >>>>Sorry......
> >>>>.....the tide continues to rise as long as people ignore questions the
> >>>>public want answered..
> >>>>
> >>>>This outcome would certainly please Dale Courtney and Jack Wenders (both
> >>>>of
> >>>>whom were extensively, if ironically, educated on the public dime), but
> >>>>how
> >>>>many of the rest of us would be dancing in the streets? Precious few, I
> >>>>suspect; precious few.
> >>>>
> >>>>I think there are plenty more people that would like this levy not to
> >>>>pass.
> >>>>We will all shortly know.
> >>>>
> >>>>How about you ask the question(s) and see where you get?
> >>>>
> >>>>1) "I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A COST BREAKDOWN FROM THE ARCHITECT OF THE
> >>>>20,500
> >>>>000.00 "REMODEL" OF THE EXISTING HIGH SCHOOL."
> >>>>
> >>>>2) "I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE "DIRECTIVE" FROM THE SCHOOL BOARD TO THE
> >>>>ARCHITECT "DIRECTING" HOW THE BID IS TO BE DONE."
> >>>>
> >>>>Phil
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
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