[Vision2020] With gas at $2.50 a gallon it is time
tocutCrosswalknumbers
Dick Schmidt
dickschmidt at moscow.com
Tue Apr 12 07:08:20 PDT 2005
Donovan,
I am not advocating only having crosswalks at a light or stop sign. I am
saying that there are too many crosswalks. Take a drive on 3rd street and
you will understand what I am talking about. There should be many less
crosswalks on I-95 as that is a heavily traveled route by trucks. I damn
sure am not going to walk from way on the east side of town over to WinCo
and get my groceries. That just doesn't make any sense. There are a lot of
places in Moscow that need sidewalks so that always isn't an option. PLEASE
read what I said "time to cut crosswalks" not eliminate them!
Pedestrians cross the road to get to the other side but they need to do a
little planning before they go so they don't stop my 3,500# Taurus. If they
don't hustle when they cross I will blow my horn and start moving ahead.
;-))
Dick
----- Original Message -----
From: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanarnold at hotmail.com>
To: <dickschmidt at moscow.com>; <deco at moscow.com>; <vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] With gas at $2.50 a gallon it is time
tocutCrosswalknumbers
> Dick,
>
> You are the only person I have ever heard advocate solving the oil usage
> problem by driving more and not walking.
>
> Here is two questions for you. If there is not an intersection for 1
> miles, should a person have to walk 1 mile to the cross walk and 1 mile
> back just to get to the other side? And second, why does a pedestrian walk
> across the road?
>
> Take Care,
>
> Donovan J Arnold
>
>
>
>>From: "Dick Schmidt" <dickschmidt at moscow.com>
>>To: "Art Deco" <deco at moscow.com>, "Vision 2020" <vision2020 at moscow.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] With gas at $2.50 a gallon it is time
>>tocutCrosswalknumbers
>>Date: Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:55:19 -0700
>>
>>Wayne,
>>
>>There are quite a few crosswalks which are NOT at intersections in
>>Moscow. There are without a doubt too many crosswalks on main arterials.
>>Paint over the white lines with black paint and take down the signs. It is
>>very easy.
>>
>>Dick
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Art Deco
>> To: Vision 2020
>> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 6:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] With gas at $2.50 a gallon it is time to
>> cutCrosswalknumbers
>>
>>
>> Dick, et al,
>>
>> From the Idaho Driver's Manual, page 2-4 (emphasis added):
>>
>> Right-of-Way and Yielding
>>
>> Idaho law defines when a vehicle or pedestrian must yield the
>> right-of-way,
>>
>> letting another vehicle or pedestrian pass through an intersection
>> first.
>>
>> Always remember that right-of-way is something to be given, not taken.
>>
>> Pedestrians and Right of Way
>>
>> Motor vehicles must yield to pedestrians when:
>>
>> . The pedestrian is in a marked or unmarked crosswalk at an
>>
>> intersection.
>>
>> . The vehicle is entering a street from an alley or driveway.
>>
>> . The pedestrian is a blind person walking with a white cane or
>>
>> seeing eye dog.
>>
>> Pedestrians must yield to motor vehicles when:
>>
>> . The pedestrian is crossing a street where there is no crosswalk or
>>
>> intersection.
>>
>> . Directed to do so by a traffic signal at an intersection or
>> crosswalk.
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Dick Schmidt
>> To: Art Deco ; nchaney at moscow.com ; johnd at moscow.com ;
>> pegh at uidaho.edu ; jon at n-k-ins.com ; jmack at turbonet.com ; lpall at moscow.com
>> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:56 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] With gas at $2.50 a gallon it is time to
>> cut Crosswalknumbers
>>
>>
>> Wayne,
>>
>> The only other town I have been in that has anything as severe or
>> comes close to the number of pedestrian crossing as Moscow is Gatlinburg,
>> TN a true tourist town. They have a sign when you enter town explaining
>> that pedestrians have the right of way. I have traveled a lot of states
>> and never have seen the amount of pedestrian crossings that Moscow has.
>> It was fine when gas was $0.59 a gallon but it is more than 4 times
>> higher than that now. I have never heard of a law that pedestrians have
>> the right of way except for the above. Moscow may have some sort of horse
>> & buggy law on the books but others don't.
>>
>> Dick Schmidt
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Art Deco
>> To: Dick Schmidt ; nchaney at moscow.com ; johnd at moscow.com ;
>> pegh at uidaho.edu ; jon at n-k-ins.com ; jmack at turbonet.com ; lpall at moscow.com
>> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 2:15 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] With gas at $2.50 a gallon it is time to
>> cut Crosswalknumbers
>>
>>
>> Dick,
>>
>> I am afraid I disagree with you on this one:
>>
>> 1. Unless the law has changed, pedestrians have the right of way
>> at all intersections in all 50 states.
>>
>> 2. To avoid the energy wasting stops (and reduce the probability
>> of accidents): everyone that can should drive less; walk more.
>>
>> Art Deco (Wayne A. Fox)
>> deco at moscow.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Dick Schmidt
>> To: nchaney at moscow.com ; johnd at moscow.com ; pegh at uidaho.edu ;
>> jon at n-k-ins.com ; jmack at turbonet.com ; lpall at moscow.com
>> Cc: vision2020 at moscow.com
>> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2005 1:23 PM
>> Subject: [Vision2020] With gas at $2.50 a gallon it is time to
>> cut Crosswalknumbers
>>
>>
>> All,
>>
>> I have noticed the huge amount of pedestrian crosswalks in the
>> city. With gas prices at $2.50 a gallon it is time to cut the number of
>> crosswalks, where traffic must stop solely for a pedestrian, by at least
>> half and you probably could cut 2/3 and still have adequate crosswalks.
>> Every time you cause a 4,000 vehicle to stop it wastes gas and pollutes
>> the air. Think of all the trucks that have to stop at the same crossings.
>>
>> I particularly noticed on 3rd street between Hayes St. and Line
>> St. there are 15 crosswalks not including the 3 stoplights between them.
>> In the main part of town there are 4 crosswalks on Jackson and 9 on
>> Washington St. in addition to 2 stop lights on both streets.
>>
>> There will be some who whine that we need to have them for our
>> college students but these college students aren't paying my gas bills.
>> This situation just adds more unnecessary costs to the cost of living in
>> Moscow which is already very high. They can learn to cross where there is
>> a light to get to the downtown area.
>>
>> I hope you will look into this situation and right after school
>> lets out next month would be an excellent time to implement this.
>>
>> Dick Schmidt
>>
>>
>>
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