[Vision2020] Question for debate-"Why not opentheUS-MexicanBoarder?"

Pat Kraut pkraut at moscow.com
Wed Sep 29 19:34:06 PDT 2004


They send so much of the money they make to Mexico that it would send them
into a tailspin if we change it.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Melynda Huskey" <mghuskey at msn.com>
To: <Vision2020 at moscow.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Question for debate-"Why not
opentheUS-MexicanBoarder?"


> As nearly any reputable economist could tell you, immigrants generate
money
> in the U.S. economy.  It is simply not true that immigrants--documented or
> not--drain the resources of our nation.  Undocumented immigrants are not
> eligible for most social services, including welfare and food stamps. They
> are not eligible for Social Security or unemployment benefits, although
they
> frequently pay into those systems through payroll taxes.  Documented
> immigrants contribute to the economy, do not receive benefits at a higher
> rate than those of us born in the U.S., and generate a net surplus of
nearly
> $30 billion dollars each year.  Recent immigrants (both documented and
> undocumented) commit fewer crimes per capita than their U.S. born peers.
> They have substantially lower rates of drug addiction, too.  But don't
take
> my word for it:
>
> www.immigrationforum.org
>
> A source with an agenda, to be sure, but a very reputable one, with
> substantial research resources at its disposal.
>
> The "things" you're suggesting we shoot, Dick, are human beings, from
whose
> exploitation you and I benefit--far from not being able to afford them, we
> presently enjoy substantially lower prices on any number of agricultural
> products, such as fresh fruits and vegetables, *because* of their poorly
> compensated, dangerous, and despised labor.
>
> Melynda Huskey
>
>
>
> >From: "Dick Schmidt" <dickschmidt at moscow.com>
> >To: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanarnold at hotmail.com>, <Vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Question for debate-"Why not open
> >theUS-MexicanBoarder?"
> >Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 06:42:58 -0700
> >
> >Donovan,
> >
> >I can't believe you are even asking such a question. And you graduated
UI?
> >Illegal immigrants are draining the resources of our country in
hospitals,
> >jails, prisons and social services. We can't afford them. I would be more
> >in
> >favor of shooting everything that came across the border illegally both
on
> >our north and south borders.
> >
> >Dick Schmidt
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Donovan Arnold" <donovanarnold at hotmail.com>
> >To: <Vision2020 at moscow.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2004 9:24 PM
> >Subject: [Vision2020] Question for debate-"Why not open the
> >US-MexicanBoarder?"
> >
> >
> > > I fail to understand why it is that everyone seems to want to keep the
> > > boarder closed between the US and Mexico.
> > >
> > > Who cares if  Mexicans comes into the country? If they are not granted
> > > citizenship, it is not like they are a threat to real US jobs.
> > >
> > > If seems to me that the major problems caused by immigration are
caused
> >not
> > > by the crossing of the boarder, but by the illegalization of crossing
> >the
> > > boarder.
> > >
> > > Please explain to me why it such a big deal if Mexicans come and go as
> >they
> > > please into this country and buy our stuff?
> > >
> > > Donovan J Arnold
> > >
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