[Vision2020] For the record: Blood Drive

[Donovan Arnold]

Carl, Ted, Debbie, Dan, Ben, etc,

To my understanding Ted sums your ideas with this line:

"But suggesting this local blood drive would discriminate against
>non-Christians because a Christian group is involved just reinforces the 
>claim that the
>"progressive" critics are paranoid and intolerant!"

A few basic points for Liberals, Christians, and Conservatives:

One, I am a Christian, and I am a Liberal; Christ is WHY I am a Liberal. So 
this argument that I was discriminating against Christians really doesn't 
make any sense whatsoever. If you check my records you will also find that I 
am the only one that filed suit against UI for a religious organization 
because it was Christian, when the Muslim, Native American, and African 
American, and Indian religious groups did get funding for their religious 
groups.

Second, If you check my past posts you will see that I have stated many, 
many times that I am a member of a family with a long history of devout 
Catholics.

Third, I have been a long time advocate for blood drives, spent years 
promoting every blood donation drive that UI had. I have donated blood and 
plasma for years, I have the scars to prove it. I also helped raise over 
$15,000 for the Red Cross.

Fourth, my statement is what my statement is. For the life of me, how you 
get 25 pages of comments out of a one sentence comment that can be taken at 
face value is beyond me.

Fifth, discrimination against Gays and Lesbians and all people from certain 
African countries that are 95%+ African is discrimination against Blacks. If 
you look at the policies that the American Red Cross uses, it uses a policy 
that only accepts blood from "living a conservative pure Christian 
lifestyle", that is the reality of the policy.

Sixth, what the hell does Christ Church have to do with any of this? Christ 
Church doesn't make this policy, it doesn't decide what questions to ask. It 
is only one of many, many sponsors of this event. And not the only one I 
necessarily disagree with.

I am sorry if all of you think it is OK for the Government to say that it is 
not ok to be Gay, Lesbian, and Black, and give Blood. It is not my fault 
that you disagree, or think it is justified. I believe that it is not 
justifiable, and I am going to continue to proclaim that it is not, at every 
chance I can, because I believe dropping their policies is the BEST way to 
increase the number of donations and save the most lives. If you wish to 
ignore my statements, that is your choice, if you wish to put words in my 
mouth, that is your choice, if you wish to say you are a liberal and I am 
not, that if your choice. But it is my choice to continue to point out 
discrimination when I see it, as I see it, because that is MY RIGHT to do 
so. And you if you do not like it, tuff, because I am going to keep saying 
it until Bush takes away my First Amendment rights.

If all 513 people on V2020 say it is not discrimination, I will keep my 
opinion, if all 21,215 people in Moscow say, they disagree, I will still say 
it is discrimination. My opinion doesn't derive from the number of incorrect 
people stating the same incorrect statements.

I am happy to be able to unite the Liberal Carl and the conservative Dan on 
one issue that it is OK to discriminate against Gays, Bi-Sexuals, Blacks, 
and others who do not follow the Christian lifestyle in civic duty of 
donating blood.

I just hope I can get through to enough people that this policy is wrong so 
that someone doesn't die because there was a lack of blood because they were 
afraid the stereotypes of a gay guy, or the black guy, might be true.

Being Gay doesn't mean you have AIDS, and being from Africa, doesn't mean 
you have AIDS. The Red Cross and others have a policy that operate on this 
assumption. It is a stupid, stupid policy.

Take Care,

Donovan J Arnold

PS, This email is what it is, don't read into something that isn't there, 
and please don't connect it to Church Christ through 18 connect the dots 
conspiracy.

PSS. Ted, smart Progressives are paranoid with Bush in office.


>From: Tbertruss at aol.com
>To: carlwestberg846 at hotmail.com, dgray at uidaho.edu, 
>donovanarnold at hotmail.com,   bmerkle at nsa.edu, vision2020 at moscow.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Moscow Community Blood Drive
>Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2004 14:07:23 EDT
>
>
>All:
>
>I suspect Donovan does have a valid point in some cases regarding
>discrimination against gays or bisexuals or certain racial groups in blood 
>donations.
>
>Donovan wrote:
>
>"Does this blood drive discrimate against Gays, Lesbians, Bisexuals, 
>Blacks,
>and non-Christians from giving blood?"
>
>But suggesting this local blood drive would discriminate against
>non-Christians because a Christian group is involved just reinforces the 
>claim that the
>"progressive" critics are paranoid and intolerant!
>
>But heck, the comment got some people fired up.  Good for the break time
>scandal chat it seems most humans thrive on...
>
>If we had no one making outrageous statements that we could all fuss and 
>fume
>about how boring would life be?
>
>Thanks Donovan!
>
>Does hyperbole come naturally to you or do you work on it?
>
>Ted Moffett
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