Fwd: [Vision2020] Re: PERSI REPORT

Sat Oct 9 16:24:07 PDT 2004

Mr Trail missed some time in office due to medical reasons, that is why he
had Mr. Bennett and Mr. Young fill in for him.

>From http://infotrail.com/idaho/Feb_23-27/feb_23-27.html
"On Monday I will go to St. Al's Hospital for a surgical procedure, and be
out for a week.  Dr. Earl Bennett, retired Dean of the U. of I.'s College
of Mines will be my substitute.  "

That is what I was talking about. That is one time when Mr. Bennet filled
in for him. Here's another:
http://infotrail.com/idaho/Mar_1-5/mar_1-5.html
As you may know, I had an angiogram performed last Monday. I am grateful
for all of your kind thoughts and prayers.  The results from this test
were very positive and I will return to work this Monday.  I thank Earl
Bennett for acting as my substitute in my absence this week.

And here's when Gary Young filled in for him:
http://infotrail.com/idaho2003/March_24-28/march_24-28.html
 I will be leaving the Legislature on April 3rd. Our grandson, Matthew,
age 17 months has been suffering from Russell-Silver Syndrome since birth,
and he had a recent setback. We feel our place is with Matthew and his
family.

These seem like excellent reasons to be absent from office. I am not sure
what absences you are talking about because you just randomly throw out
'donovan facts' that are hard to verify. What WERE you talking about?

Furthermore, in regard to my comment about Mr. Solomon posting his health
records, I do not want to know about his health, I do not care about his
health, though I hope he is healthy.  However, in the past he has made
quite a point of posting his financial records to this forum. Since Tom
Trial has his cardiologists report, I jokingly thought perhaps medical
records would be next. It was a joke. Maybe you didn't get it. Maybe you
thought it was disgusting. I really don't care. How you make the leap to
me demanding proof of medical records for employment boggles my mind. You
often boggle my mind.

And we do thank you for referring to we, meaning me, as the royal we, I
shall now talk in a pinched british accent the rest of the day.

Debbie

On Sat, 9 Oct 2004, Donovan Arnold wrote:

> Ms. Gray,
>
> Do we have selective reading? Are you reading things that people didn't
> write? Are you making assumptions about people?
>
> Please tell me exactly where it is that anybody said that Mr.Trail was gone
> under the Americans with Disabilities Act? Who is harassing Mr Trail for
> taking a medical leave of absence? Who is harassing Mr. Trail for taking
> care of his Family?
>
> I seem to recall stating that if Mr. Trail is NOT gone for Medical Reasons,
> then 3 weeks is a long time. The Americans with Disabilities Act, and the
> Family Leave of Absence are medical reasons. Reasons which Mr. Trail says he
> doesn't qualify under.
>
> I happen to think that if someone is gone, a great deal of time, who is not
> gone for a medical reasons, is not doing their job. I expect that they ran
> for the job because they wanted to represent us and people voted for them,
> lie me, because they wanted to be represented by him and expect him to be
> there.
>
> If Mr. Trail is having to leave for medical reasons, I would accept that as
> reason for someone being gone. Being sick, or taking care or needy family
> member qualifies as a medical reason. If Mr. Trail has a disability, then we
> should make sure that he is given all the accommodations he needs to do his
> job in Representing the people of Latah County.
>
> Mr. Trail just said in his email, that he is in perfect health. If he is in
> perfect health, why is he missing representing Moscow Residents?
>
> I think it is absurd and unacceptable for you to accuse people of ignoring
> the American Disabilities Act, and the Family Leave of Absence, when in fact
> this isn't even a issue in conversation. Your situation is not Mr. Trails
> situation.
>
> Are Representatives to be allowed to represent people in their district
> whenever they just feel like it, and just take off whenever they want? Is
> your opinion of the people in Moscow so low that you think we don't deserve
> constant and proper representation?
>
> Take Care,
>
> Donovan J Arnold
>
> PS,  "I am waiting to see if Mark Solomon will post his medical records for
> the past 15 years."--Is a disgusting statement. I would never require or ask
> anyone to do this. If you asked this of me as a job requirement, I would
> file charges against you and you would most likely be fired from your job.
> this is unacceptable behavior, especially from someone that values their own
> privacy so much. Even jokingly, this is demented and would be illegal in the
> private sector.
>
> >From: Debbie Gray <dgray at uidaho.edu>
> >To: Donovan Arnold <donovanarnold at hotmail.com>
> >CC: Tom Trail <ttrail at moscow.com>, vision2020 at whale2.fsr.net
> >Subject: RE: Fwd: [Vision2020] Re: PERSI REPORT
> >Date: Sat, 09 Oct 2004 13:26:58 -0700 (PDT)
> >
> >If this were an employee covered under the Americans with Disabilities Act
> >or the Family Medical Leave Act, I don't see that it would be legal to
> >harass Mr. Trail for taking medical leave. Why is it justifiable just
> >because he is an elected official? What if he is dealing with health
> >issues within his family? That is still none of our business. And imagine
> >if he had ignored family related health issues to stay down in Boise,
> >wouldn't we be hearing all sorts of criticism about what kind of a person
> >would do that? I've had to take medical leave for my own health problems
> >and those of my family and I've heard plenty of people whine about how I
> >was basically just on vacation. My husband heard smarmy comments when he
> >took off time under the FMLA after both of our children were born. Do we
> >value families or not?
> >
> >If you don't want to vote for him, DON'T, but bringing up his medical
> >business is unacceptable. And now I am waiting to see if Mark Solomon will
> >post his medical records for the past 15 years... =)
> >
> >Debbie
> > >Donovan Arnold wrote:
> >
> >1) Mr. Trail's health is his business. However, what is OUR business is if
> >Trail can go to Boise and represent us. It seems to me that Mr.Trail is
> >always gone. If he is in great health, why is he always handing his seat
> >to someone else? It makes no sense to me why he is in office if he not
> >going to vote or even go to Boise. I certainly have no problem with him
> >not making every vote, but three week leaves of absence at a time when he
> >doesn't have health problems seems a bit excessive to me.
> >
> >
> >Debbie
> >
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