[Vision2020] It is a matter of trust?
Pat Kraut
pkraut@moscow.com
Wed, 19 May 2004 14:20:19 -0700
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So, once again Kerry waffles.
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Joan Opyr=20
To: Vision2020 Moscow=20
Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:05 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] It is a matter of trust?
Pat writes:
>I have also heard that Catholics all have sex with the priest in the =
confessional...but I have no evidence of it myself. It >curious to me =
that every email that responded to this completely ignored the part =
about Kerry and the other politicians >and their voting records that are =
opposite of the tenets of the church. Thats what my email was really =
about.
Consider this -- Kerry's pro-choice stance on abortion conflicts with =
Catholic doctrine, but his opposition to the death penalty is in perfect =
harmony with the Church's teaching. So, if Kerry is not obedient to the =
Church on all points of doctrine, is it necessarily the case that he is =
in utter conflict? Or, as you seem to suggest, a hypocrite? Could it =
be that Kerry, like the rest of us, makes difficult and nuanced =
decisions according to his conscience? And here's another point to =
consider: is opposition to abortion more important to the Catholic =
Church than opposition to the death penalty? I have read nothing to =
indicate that Catholic bishops are considering withholding the sacrament =
of communion from pro-death penalty politicians and parishioners. =20
George Bush is anti-choice, pro-death penalty, and Methodist. Where =
does the Methodist Church come down on these issues? Is Mr. Bush in any =
way in conflict with his church's teachings?
Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment
PS: The Catholic Church strongly opposed the war in Iraq. How many =
Catholic politicians -- or, for that matter, Catholics generally -- =
followed the Pope's lead on that issue?=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>So, once again Kerry waffles.</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dauntiestablishment@hotmail.com=20
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision2020 Moscow</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 19, 2004 =
10:05=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] It is =
a matter=20
of trust?</DIV>
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<DIV>Pat writes:</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>>I have also heard that Catholics all have =
sex with=20
the priest in the confessional...but I have no evidence of it myself. =
It=20
>curious to me that every email that responded to this completely =
ignored=20
the part about Kerry and the other politicians >and their voting =
records=20
that are opposite of the tenets of the church. Thats what my email was =
really=20
about.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Consider this -- Kerry's pro-choice stance on =
abortion=20
conflicts with Catholic doctrine, but his opposition to the death =
penalty is=20
in perfect harmony with the Church's teaching. So, if Kerry is =
not=20
obedient to the Church on all points of doctrine, is it necessarily =
the case=20
that he is in utter conflict? Or, as you seem to suggest, a=20
hypocrite? Could it be that Kerry, like the rest of =
us, makes=20
difficult and nuanced decisions according =
to his conscience? =20
And here's another point to consider: is opposition to abortion more =
important=20
to the Catholic Church than opposition to the death =
penalty? I have=20
read nothing to indicate that Catholic bishops are considering =
withholding the=20
sacrament of communion from pro-death penalty politicians and=20
parishioners. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>George Bush is anti-choice, pro-death penalty, =
and Methodist. Where does the Methodist Church come =
down on=20
these issues? Is Mr. Bush in any way in conflict with his =
church's=20
teachings?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>Joan Opyr/Auntie Establishment</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial>PS: The Catholic Church strongly opposed =
the war in=20
Iraq. How many Catholic politicians -- or, for that=20
matter, Catholics generally -- followed the Pope's lead on that=20
issue?</FONT> </DIV>
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