[Vision2020] Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund

JSullivan jsullivan@moscow.com
Mon, 3 May 2004 18:13:03 -0700


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Is it a normal practice to forward on a private message from one party =
to the other, in this forum..... to everyone? I am a very private =
person, and don't appreciate this one iota. You can write whatever you =
want to, as can I. I just find the breech of my private opinion to you, =
reenforces what I said to you, albeit PRIVATELY, that you are a person =
lacking in manners AND class. Or was it dignity and class? *nodding*  =
I'll add manners to the list. For someone so steadfast in lawyers doing =
the right thing in a court of law, you might want to consider thinking =
about "doing the right thing" yourself. Just because you CAN post my =
private message to you, in public, does not in ANY WAY mean that you =
SHOULD.=20

As a matter of fact, I DO use the delete key on a regular basis. Less so =
these days, since the religious haggling has died down somewhat.=20

Good day, Mr. Fox.

Janesta Carcich Sullivan
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Art Deco aka W. Fox=20
  To: Vision 2020=20
  Cc: Nathan Alford Daily News ; LuJane Nisse Publisher ; Sharon Kehoe ; =
Vera White Daily News ; Murf Raquet Daily News ; Ralph Nielsen=20
  Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 9:11 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's =
Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund


  Janesta and those that share her point of view [all or in part],

  Thank you for your comments.

  It would miraculous and surprising if everyone one participating in an =
online or other forum agreed with or was pleased by everything everyone =
else wrote.

  If I have read the many thousands of Vision 2020 posts and responses =
correctly, many participants express a great variety of responses to =
other postings: various nuances of agreement, anger, disgust, =
helplessness, amusement, shock, befuddlement, cluelessness, etc. are =
evident.  This is to be expected in an open, public forum in a community =
with a wide variety of outlooks, manners of expression, talents, =
subjects of interest, and gradients of education and knowledge.  Also to =
be considered:  although many claim to, observations lead one to believe =
that no one person or organization owns the truth -- the universe is too =
complicated to be understood by a single person or group.

  While Dan Carscallen and I do not always agree, I appreciate his terse =
humor.  I appreciate Sunil's polite, incisive, persistent commentary, =
and Saundra Lund's, Rose Huskey's, and Joan Opyr's brisk, cutting irony, =
sarcasm, and willingness to research facts.  Although I seldom agreed =
with Dale Courtney, I respected his willingness to present statistics =
and graphs to argue his point of view.  I appreciate Tom Hansen's =
sometimes emotional postings and labor intensive, caring allied website. =
 I don't always agree with Tim Lohrman, but I try to see exactly where =
he is coming from and learn from it.  LuJane and I have quite different =
worldviews.  The list could go on and on.

  Each individual has their own point of view and preferences.

  Similarly, when presenting a point of view, a writer has his choice of =
many different literary devices.  Depending on the circumstances, =
subject, stimulus, and objectives, a writer attempts to choose, perhaps =
in error, the most effective devices to reach their goals.

  You find the device I used in the post at issue to be tasteless and =
objectionable.  There is no doubt that it is quite graphic parody -- a =
device sometimes used by other Vision 2020 posters and surprise:  =
millions of other writers.  Depending on their point of view and life's =
experience, some readers might find such graphic parody extreme.  Those =
that participate in national on-line forums and/or frequently read OP-ED =
pages probably would not find it so.

  I purposely changed the title of the thread at issue so as to warn =
potential readers.  When seeing the title "Inspirational Story of the =
Cult Master's Testicles," the timid should guess that the content would =
not be as tame or as civil as would the content expected in a post =
entitled "High Tea at Good Samaritan Village."  Delete keys have their =
uses.

  I hope that most of us can agree that free expression of ideas and the =
way chosen to express those ideas is one of the most important, =
fundamental elements of an open, secular society.  Just as you are free =
to say what you wish and how to say it, others are also.  That is what =
makes us free.

  Each of us must choose which of our ever-evolving opinions to express =
and how to express them to reach certain goals.  It would be an exercise =
in extreme egotism to think that one's writings would have a desirable, =
persuasive, positive effect on all members of the reading audience.  I =
entertain no such hopes.  In fact, I would be happy for a 5% positive =
response; perhaps even that is too high.

  Thank you again for your feedback.  Your (or anyone else's) censorious =
use of the delete key for any of my future posts would certainly be =
understandable and not at all objectionable.  However, please consider =
allowing each individual the freedom to decide what to do with any =
particular posting -- each can invoke their own censor without help from =
the rest of us.

  Respectfully,

  Wayne

  Art Deco  (Wayne Fox)
  deco@moscow.com

    ----- Original Message -----=20
    From: JSullivan=20
    To: Art Deco aka W. Fox=20
    Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 8:30 PM
    Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's =
Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund


    While I find little to concur with these days regarding Mr. Wilson, =
and what he espouses, and I do consider myself "normal". I find this =
exercise in writing to be in very poor taste for this forum. It shows a =
real lack of dignity and class on your part, Mr. Fox. I fail to see the =
humor in it. Am I alone in feeling this way?

    Janesta Carcich Sullivan


      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Art Deco aka W. Fox=20
      To: Vision 2020 ; Saundra Lund=20
      Cc: Nathan Alford Daily News ; LuJane Nisse Publisher ; Sharon =
Kehoe ; Vera White Daily News ; Murf Raquet Daily News ; Ralph Nielsen=20
      Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 7:40 PM
      Subject: [Vision2020] Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's =
Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund


      Saundra (and other Normal Folks),

      =20

      Thank you for your Vision 2020 reposting, appropriately on Sunday, =
of some of Moscow, Idaho Christ Church Cult Master Douglas Wilson's =
views on women.

      =20

      Wilson's deep, gut-churning, almost-lethal-flatulence producing =
fear and massive ignorance of women as well as his quavering horror of =
castration torturously screams out from his writings.  However, it is =
too late for him to worry about losing his balls.  Fait Accompli.

      =20

      Further, it is particularly uncanny that you raised the issue of =
the Cult Master's testicles at this particular time!

      =20

      I've just been updated about their status by inside man Gray =
Greenphlegm (Zoomie's Bakery, Booger's Coffee House, Greenphlegm Coffee, =
Balls and Crotch Book Stall, etc.).  The true story of the misadventures =
of the Cult Master's balls is a marvelous, divinely inspired, modern =
religious parable.

      =20

      We last heard of the Cult Master's balls when they were in the =
hands (no pun intended) of Rose Huskey, sorceress and excisor by her wit =
of pathetic Douglas Wilson's balls.

      =20

      Rose was exhibiting these singular objects around the Palouse not =
only because they formerly belonged to the Cult Master, but because of =
their curious, unexpected properties.  First, coming from such a large, =
obese man the testicles were tiny and underdeveloped.  Second, they were =
not ovoid but round like those of a hyena.  Third, they were not flesh =
colored but were an amazing bright scarlet.  "They look like rotten =
miniature beets!" exclaimed both attorney Gregor Dickistoosmal and Aaron =
Retch of the Collegiate Deformed Fellowship.

      =20

      Rose Huskey is a practical woman.  For exhibition purposes, she =
was carrying the Cult Master's testicles around in a zip-lock bag.  =
Unfortunately, she was almost run down in that dangerous crosswalk by =
the Moscow Police Station.  During her scurry, she accidentally dropped =
Douglas Wilson's balls.

      =20

      Fortunately, they were immediately found by Eileen I. Wantout, =
famous, eccentric Moscow sculptress and member of the Christ Church =
Cult.

      =20

      It is well known that an insanely driving creative urge sometimes =
seizes and possesses Ms. Wantout.  This time the urge hit her when she =
was in a semi-comatose state induced by listening to one of Douglas =
Wilson's taped sermons.  In her impaired state she mistook the Cult =
Master's balls for play-dough.  She then tried to fashion them into =
shapes of small animals and religious icons.  Unfortunately, this did =
not work.

      =20

      Giving her effort up as a lost cause, Eileen returned the Cult =
Master's mangled balls to their zip-lock bag and absentmindedly put them =
in her purse.  Like Thales of yore, Eileen sometimes wanders about with =
her wits focused on things other than where she is going or what she is =
doing.  Consequently, her purse was snatched.

      =20

      When the snatcher opened the purse to extract its treasures, the =
first thing he discovered was the Cult Master's tiny, mangled balls.  =
This so thoroughly discommoded the snatcher that he threw the zip-lock =
bag with the tiny scarlet, rotten beet look-alikes into the first =
automobile with an open window he found.

      =20

      Miraculously, the receiving vessel belonged to Norma Stonewell, =
internationally famous painter.  Stonewell had recently and graciously =
volunteered to do an 11 x 8 foot inspirational painting for the =
University of Idaho's Women's Center.  She was artistically blocked, =
however, because she was unable to find a pigment of just the right =
color for strategic parts of her brilliant artistic conception.

      =20

      Talk about divine serendipity!  The Cult Master's balls were =
exactly the natural color Stonewell was looking for!

      =20

      The rest is history.  Stonewell immediately took the Cult Master's =
testicles to her studio.  Norma then crushed and ground Douglas Wilson's =
balls with her massive mortar and pestle, adding secret ingredients and =
thus making pigment from them.  She then painted feverishly for several =
weeks to produce her now famous masterpiece of classical religious =
allegory.

      =20

      As most of you know the painting depicts a young woman standing =
triumphantly over the body of a dead pastor who had just ordered her =
death by stoning in a great, blithering rage.  The young woman had dared =
to declare that women have the same rights as men!  The pastor depicted =
in the painting is an utterly unmistakable image of the gluttonous =
Douglas Wilson.

      =20

      Exhibiting a brilliant stroke of divinely inspired, stunning =
symbolism and subtext, the painting clearly shows that the pastor choked =
to death after swallowing a gargantuan gob of eagle feces.  There is no =
other reasonable interpretation than this massive, multi-colored, =
amorphous mass fell from the sky just as the pastor was looking upward =
exhorting God to visit holy, heinous, basaltic vengeance on the young =
woman.

      =20

      Stonewell's vivid, meticulous portraiture of the nearby, still =
circling eagle and the scrupulously detailed partially saliva-covered =
flecks and jagged clumps of eagle feces spewed in and around the mouth =
and beard of the dead pastor (whose lips and interior mouth were colored =
in part using the pigment described above) are considered to be the =
finest examples of micro-detailing in the history of painting.  In fact, =
as most know, Stonewell unanimously won the Nobel Prize for this =
magnificent work of art as well as unanimously winning many other =
prestigious awards.  Many claim that in voting for all these awards, the =
juries were directly guided by the hand of God.

      =20

      Norma Stonewell's painting, entitled "God Drops a Hint", adorns a =
wall of the UI Women's Center.  Despite having lost his balls, this =
exhibition must make Cult Master Douglas Wilson feel especially warm and =
prickly all over:  His former testicles are now helping to inspire women =
of all ages, races, and sexual orientations toward achieving full =
equality and full self-realization.

      =20

      In a previous posting the following was mentioned when Wilson's =
son-in-law, Ben Merkle, also lost his balls also to Rose Huskey's =
castrating wit.  (Now, Ben's balls are enshrined in the giant jar of =
pickled eggs at the Corner Club.)  According to the Know-Alls at =
Christian Bestiality, testicles from an Athabaskan pygmy goat could =
normally be transplanted onto the Cult Master.  This was diligently and =
strenuously tried, but unfortunately, the operation was a failure.  The =
goat testicles rejected the patient.

      =20

      Sincerely,

      =20
      Wayne

      Art Deco  (Wayne Fox)
      deco@moscow.com


      =20

      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund@adelphia.net>
      To: "'Art Deco aka W. Fox'" <deco@moscow.com>; "'Vision 2020'" =
<vision2020@moscow.com>
      Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 10:07 AM
      Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Cult Master: Women should not be able to =
choose to defend their country


      | Hi Mr. Fox,
      |=20
      | I'm not at all surprised by Wilson's Absent Without Leave blog =
entry.  For
      | the benefit of new V2020 members and for those who may have =
missed it the
      | first time around, I'm going to repost part of my "Why Moscow?" =
post from a
      | couple of months ago.
      |=20
      | Wilson has written:
      | "If those who hate the Word of God can succeed in getting =
Christians to be
      | embarrassed by any portion of the Word of God, then that portion =
will
      | continually be employed as a battering ram against the godly =
principles that
      | are currently under attack.  In our day, three of the principal =
issues are
      | abortion, feminism, and sodomy."
      | http://www.credenda.org/old/issues/vol4/them4-6.htm
      |=20
      | Clearly, then, we understand Wilson and his church's position on =
"abortion,
      | feminism, and sodomy."  <sigh>
      |=20
      | However, how many of us knew that Wilson's opposition to equal =
rights for
      | women is rabid enough that should women be allowed in combat to =
defend our
      | country, he would advocate the following?
      |=20
      | "The American military is currently acting the part of a weak =
sister.  The
      | pressure is on to bring women into combat roles. . . Indications =
of our
      | cultural dissolution are legion these days, but this one ranks =
in the top
      | five . . . A nation defended by her women is a nation no longer =
worth
      | defending.  When women are placed in the front line of defense, =
every
      | Christian man should walk away from the cause of that nation as =
being
      | beneath contempt.  Taking this a step further, a nation as far =
gone as to
      | think that women in combat is a viable way to go is a nation =
which is no
      | longer defensible in principle-even if there remains a misguided =
desire to
      | defend it.  Men who understand their duties in this regard . . . =
should
      | recognize that the result of all our evangelical dithering about =
is that the
      | nation which we call the United States has already been lost."
      | http://www.credenda.org/issues/10-3husbandry.php
      |=20
      | Wow!
      |=20
      | Since the US is already "lost," what, then, is a man to do?  =
Well, never
      | fear because Wilson has your answer, and it offers further =
insight into his
      | empire building here in Moscow:
      |=20
      | "Families should begin congregating in communities where these =
duties are
      | understood, and the men of those communities have every =
intention of
      | fulfilling those duties.  Christian men who are in the military =
should get
      | out at the first lawful opportunity and move to a community =
where they may
      | defend their families instead of their current unwilling defense =
of the
      | feminist agenda . . . The prohibition to women in Deuteronomy =
22:5 is one
      | which blindsides us.  We knew abortion and homosexuality were =
abominations."
      |=20
      | Double-wow!!  So, is it Wilson's perception that *our* Moscow =
community
      | *doesn't* support women's rights (among other things)???  I =
guess he thinks
      | it doesn't really matter what our community values since his =
empire is
      | recruiting people to move to our community who share his desires =
for a
      | theocracy -- I guess he figures (incorrectly, I hope) that has =
to start
      | someplace, so he's targeted our community as the first step  :-( =
 That seems
      | clear to me in spite of Wilson's public protestations otherwise.
      |=20
      | I hope and pray this community will continue to wake up and =
smell Wilson's
      | coffee . . . and understand *why* it's necessary to speak out =
against such
      | wickedness.  He has a very clearly stated agenda that I believe =
is abhorrent
      | to our community and flatly antithetical to what makes our =
community Moscow.
      |=20
      | But, please, Please, PLEASE *don't* take my word for it!  Go =
straight to the
      | horse's mouth and read Wilson's own published words.  Compare =
and contrast
      | what he says when he's talking to others who share his beliefs =
with what he
      | says when he's addressing those who don't share his particular =
flavor of
      | Christianity.  As a community, I hope we will continue to use =
our collective
      | critical thinking skills to keep the wool from being pulled over =
our eyes.
      |=20
      | So, please remind me again:  who is it that's supposed to be =
intolerant???
      |=20
      |=20
      | Saundra Lund
      | Proud Intoleristas
      | Moscow, ID
      |=20
      | -----Original Message-----
      | From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com =
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] On
      | Behalf Of Art Deco aka W. Fox
      | Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 1:10 PM
      | To: Vision 2020
      | Subject: [Vision2020] Cult Master: Women should not be able to =
choose to
      | defend their country
      |=20
      |=20
      | Normal Folks,
      |=20
      | The following is a dido (perhaps, some might uncivilly say =
"dildo"[you can
      | infer his target]) from Christ Church Cult Master Douglas =
Wilson's
      | self-sucking weblog (webblot?) www.dougwils.com.=20
      |=20
      | Not only should women be disallowed from being on the board of =
his two-bit
      | cult school, Bogus School, (despite the fact at the time of his =
initial
      | suggestion, both the President and Prime Minister of Finland =
were women),
      | but apparently women should not be given the freedom to choose =
how they wish
      | to serve their country!
      |=20
      | It also appears that it is more important to the Cult Master =
that he win his
      | private "cultural conflict" (anti-egalitarism) than it is for =
the U.S. to
      | bring the conflict in Iraq to a satisfactory conclusion =
(assuming one is
      | possible).
      |=20
      | Can you say "pathological egomaniacal megalomania" or the less =
polite
      | equivalent?
      |=20
      | Wayne
      |=20
      | Art Deco  (Wayne Fox)
      | deco@moscow.com
      |=20
      | __________________________________________________
      | Absent Without Leave
      | Topic: Current Events
      |=20
      | As the war in Iraq grinds on, multiple lessons can be gleaned =
from it. And
      | not all the lessons have anything to do with the tactical =
details of this
      | particular war.
      |=20
      | One of the most strking things about this conflict is that when =
I see
      | talking heads on the teevee talking about it, whether they =
support or oppose
      | the war, whether they are conservative or liberal, they always =
manage to get
      | in something about how they of course support "our brave men and =
women" in
      | uniform. And there, with those two words -- "and women" -- we =
have a
      | showcase example of how our domestic kennel-fed conservative =
leaders do not
      | have any earthly idea of what kind of cultural conflict we are =
in.
      | Apparently victory in Iraq is important enough that we should =
purchase it
      | through fundamental defeats here at home.
      |=20
      | When young girls are killed or maimed in combat, where are the =
leading
      | conservative spokesmen who take the opportunity to raise the =
point and press
      | it? Why does no one point out that the abomination is, you know, =
abominable?
      | Of course, they don't do it then out of consideration for the =
grieving
      | families. And they don't do it later because there is no reason =
to when the
      | heat is off. For all the saber-rattling conservatives can do =
when it comes
      | to fighting backward nations with high-tech weaponry, when it =
comes to an
      | issue that might require actual courage from them, they are to =
use a
      | military term, AWOL.

      | Posted by Douglas Wilson - 4/30/2004 9:22:06 AM
      | =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is it a&nbsp;normal practice to forward =
on a=20
private message from one party to the other,&nbsp;in this forum..... to=20
everyone? I am a very private person, and don't appreciate this one =
iota. You=20
can write whatever you want to, as can I. I just find the breech of my =
private=20
opinion to you, reenforces what I said to you, albeit PRIVATELY, that =
you are a=20
person lacking in manners AND class. Or was it dignity and class? =
*nodding*=20
&nbsp;I'll add manners to the list. For someone so steadfast in lawyers =
doing=20
the right thing in a court of law, you might want to consider thinking =
about=20
"doing the right thing" yourself. Just because you CAN post my private =
message=20
to you, in public, does not in ANY WAY mean that you SHOULD. =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As a matter of fact, I DO use the =
delete key on a=20
regular basis. Less so these days, since the religious&nbsp;haggling has =
died=20
down somewhat. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good day, Mr. Fox.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Janesta Carcich Sullivan</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3Ddeco@moscow.com href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco =
aka W. Fox</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=3Dalford@dnews.com =

  href=3D"mailto:alford@dnews.com">Nathan Alford Daily News</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Dlujane@lataheagle.com =
href=3D"mailto:lujane@lataheagle.com">LuJane Nisse=20
  Publisher</A> ; <A title=3Dskehoe@uidaho.edu=20
  href=3D"mailto:skehoe@uidaho.edu">Sharon Kehoe</A> ; <A =
title=3DVeraWhite@aol.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:VeraWhite@aol.com">Vera White Daily News</A> ; <A=20
  title=3Dmurf@dnews.com href=3D"mailto:murf@dnews.com">Murf Raquet =
Daily News</A> ;=20
  <A title=3Dnielsen@uidaho.edu href=3D"mailto:nielsen@uidaho.edu">Ralph =
Nielsen</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 03, 2004 9:11 =
AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] =
Inspirational=20
  Story of the Cult Master's Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Janesta and those that share her point of view =
[all or in=20
  part],</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Thank you for your comments.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4>It would miraculous and surprising if everyone=20
  one&nbsp;participating in&nbsp;an online or other forum agreed with or =
was=20
  pleased by everything everyone else wrote.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4>If I have read the many thousands of Vision 2020 =
posts and=20
  responses correctly, many participants express a great variety of =
responses to=20
  other postings: various nuances of agreement, anger, disgust, =
helplessness,=20
  amusement, shock, befuddlement, cluelessness, etc.&nbsp;are evident.=20
  &nbsp;This is to be expected in an open, public forum&nbsp;in a =
community with=20
  a wide variety of outlooks, manners of expression, =
talents,&nbsp;subjects of=20
  interest, and&nbsp;gradients of education and knowledge.&nbsp; Also to =
be=20
  considered:&nbsp; although many claim to, observations lead one to =
believe=20
  that no one person or organization owns the truth -- the universe is =
too=20
  complicated to be understood by&nbsp;a single&nbsp;person or=20
  group.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4>While Dan Carscallen and I do not always agree, I =
appreciate=20
  his terse humor.&nbsp; I appreciate Sunil's polite, incisive, =
persistent=20
  commentary, and Saundra Lund's, Rose Huskey's, and Joan Opyr's brisk, =
cutting=20
  irony, sarcasm, and willingness to research facts.&nbsp; Although I =
seldom=20
  agreed with Dale Courtney, I respected his willingness to present =
statistics=20
  and graphs to argue his point of view.&nbsp; I appreciate Tom Hansen's =

  sometimes emotional postings and labor intensive, caring allied =
website.&nbsp;=20
  I don't always agree with Tim Lohrman, but I try to&nbsp;see=20
  exactly&nbsp;where he is coming from and learn from it.&nbsp; LuJane =
and I=20
  have quite different worldviews.&nbsp; The list could go on and=20
  on.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Each individual has their own point of view and=20
  preferences.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Similarly, when presenting a point of view, a =
writer has his=20
  choice of many different literary devices.&nbsp; Depending on the=20
  circumstances, subject, stimulus, and objectives, a writer attempts to =
choose,=20
  perhaps in error,&nbsp;the most effective devices to reach their=20
  goals.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4>You find the device I used in the post at issue to =
be=20
  tasteless and objectionable.&nbsp; There is no doubt that it&nbsp;is =
quite=20
  graphic parody&nbsp;-- a device sometimes used by&nbsp;other Vision =
2020=20
  posters and surprise:&nbsp; millions of other writers.&nbsp; Depending =

  on&nbsp;their point of view and life's experience, some readers might =
find=20
  such graphic parody extreme.&nbsp; Those that participate =
in&nbsp;national=20
  on-line forums and/or frequently read OP-ED pages probably would not =
find it=20
  so.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4>I purposely changed the title of the thread at =
issue so as=20
  to warn potential readers.&nbsp; When seeing the title "Inspirational =
Story of=20
  the Cult Master's Testicles," the timid should guess that the content =
would=20
  not be&nbsp;as tame&nbsp;or as civil as would the content expected in =
a post=20
  entitled "High Tea at Good Samaritan Village."&nbsp; Delete keys have =
their=20
  uses.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4>I hope that most of us can agree that free =
expression of=20
  ideas and the way&nbsp;chosen to express those&nbsp;ideas is one of =
the most=20
  important, fundamental&nbsp;elements of an open, secular =
society.&nbsp; Just=20
  as you are free to say what you wish and how to say it, others are =
also.&nbsp;=20
  That is what makes us free.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Each of us must choose which of our ever-evolving =
opinions=20
  to express and how to express them to reach certain goals.&nbsp; It =
would be=20
  an exercise in extreme egotism to think that one's writings would have =
a=20
  desirable, persuasive, positive effect on all members of the reading=20
  audience.&nbsp; I entertain no such hopes.&nbsp; In fact, I would be =
happy for=20
  a 5% positive response; perhaps even that is too high.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Thank you again for your feedback.&nbsp; Your (or =
anyone=20
  else's) censorious use of the delete key for any of my future posts =
would=20
  certainly be understandable and not at all objectionable.&nbsp; =
However,=20
  please consider allowing each individual the freedom to decide what to =
do with=20
  any particular posting -- each can invoke their own censor without =
help from=20
  the rest of us.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Respectfully,</FONT></DIV><FONT size=3D4>
  <DIV><BR>Wayne</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Art Deco&nbsp; (Wayne Fox)<BR><A=20
  href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR></FONT></DIV>
  <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
  style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
    <DIV=20
    style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
    <A title=3Djsullivan@moscow.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:jsullivan@moscow.com">JSullivan</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Ddeco@moscow.com=20
    href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco aka W. Fox</A> </DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 02, 2004 =
8:30=20
PM</DIV>
    <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] =
Inspirational=20
    Story of the Cult Master's Testicles: A Response to Saundra =
Lund</DIV>
    <DIV><BR></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>While I find little =
to&nbsp;concur&nbsp;with=20
    these days&nbsp;regarding Mr. Wilson, and what he espouses,&nbsp;and =
I do=20
    consider myself "normal".&nbsp;I find this exercise in writing to be =
in very=20
    poor taste for this forum. It shows a real lack of dignity and class =
on your=20
    part, Mr. Fox. I fail to see the humor in it. Am I alone in feeling =
this=20
    way?</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Janesta Carcich =
Sullivan</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
    style=3D"PADDING-RIGHT: 0px; PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; =
BORDER-LEFT: #000000 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Ddeco@moscow.com href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art =
Deco aka W.=20
      Fox</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com=20
      href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> ; <A=20
      title=3Dsslund@adelphia.net =
href=3D"mailto:sslund@adelphia.net">Saundra=20
      Lund</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dalford@dnews.com=20
      href=3D"mailto:alford@dnews.com">Nathan Alford Daily News</A> ; <A =

      title=3Dlujane@lataheagle.com =
href=3D"mailto:lujane@lataheagle.com">LuJane=20
      Nisse Publisher</A> ; <A title=3Dskehoe@uidaho.edu=20
      href=3D"mailto:skehoe@uidaho.edu">Sharon Kehoe</A> ; <A=20
      title=3DVeraWhite@aol.com href=3D"mailto:VeraWhite@aol.com">Vera =
White Daily=20
      News</A> ; <A title=3Dmurf@dnews.com =
href=3D"mailto:murf@dnews.com">Murf=20
      Raquet Daily News</A> ; <A title=3Dnielsen@uidaho.edu=20
      href=3D"mailto:nielsen@uidaho.edu">Ralph Nielsen</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 02, 2004 =
7:40=20
      PM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] =
Inspirational=20
      Story of the Cult Master's Testicles: A Response to Saundra =
Lund</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Saundra (and =
other Normal=20
      Folks),</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Thank you for =
your Vision=20
      2020 reposting, appropriately on Sunday, of some of Moscow, Idaho =
Christ=20
      Church Cult Master Douglas Wilson=92s views on women.</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Wilson=92s =
deep,=20
      gut-churning, almost-lethal-flatulence producing fear and massive=20
      ignorance of women as well as his quavering horror of castration=20
      torturously screams out&nbsp;from his writings.<SPAN=20
      style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>However, it is too late =
for him to=20
      worry about losing his balls.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes">&nbsp;=20
      </SPAN>Fait Accompli.</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Further, it is=20
      <STRONG>particularly uncanny</STRONG> that you raised the issue of =
the=20
      Cult Master=92s testicles at this particular time!</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I=92ve just =
been updated=20
      about their status by inside man Gray Greenphlegm (Zoomie=92s =
Bakery,=20
      Booger=92s Coffee House, Greenphlegm Coffee, Balls and Crotch Book =
Stall,=20
      etc.). <SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>The true =
story of the=20
      misadventures of the Cult Master=92s balls is a marvelous, =
divinely=20
      inspired, modern religious parable.</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">We last heard =
of the Cult=20
      Master=92s balls when they were in the hands (no pun intended) of =
Rose=20
      Huskey, sorceress and excisor by her wit of pathetic Douglas =
Wilson=92s=20
      balls.</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Rose was =
exhibiting these=20
      singular objects around the Palouse not only because they formerly =

      belonged to the Cult Master, but because of their curious, =
unexpected=20
      properties.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>First, =
coming=20
      from such a large, obese man the testicles were tiny and=20
      underdeveloped.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; =
</SPAN>Second, they=20
      were not ovoid but round like those of a hyena.<SPAN=20
      style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Third, they were not =
flesh colored=20
      but were an amazing bright scarlet.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes">&nbsp;=20
      </SPAN>=93They look like rotten miniature beets!=94 exclaimed both =
attorney=20
      Gregor Dickistoosmal and Aaron Retch of the Collegiate Deformed=20
      Fellowship.</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Rose Huskey is =
a practical=20
      woman.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>For =
exhibition=20
      purposes, she was carrying the Cult Master=92s testicles around in =
a=20
      zip-lock bag.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; =
</SPAN>Unfortunately,=20
      she was almost run down in that dangerous crosswalk by the Moscow =
Police=20
      Station.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>During her =
scurry,=20
      she accidentally dropped Douglas Wilson=92s balls.</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Fortunately, =
they were=20
      immediately found by Eileen I. Wantout, famous, eccentric Moscow=20
      sculptress and member of the Christ Church Cult.</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">It is well =
known that an=20
      insanely driving creative urge sometimes seizes and possesses Ms.=20
      Wantout.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>This time =
the urge=20
      hit her when she was in a semi-comatose state induced by listening =
to one=20
      of Douglas Wilson=92s taped sermons.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes">&nbsp;=20
      </SPAN>In her impaired state she mistook the Cult Master=92s balls =
for=20
      play-dough.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>She =
then tried to=20
      fashion them into shapes of small animals and religious =
icons.<SPAN=20
      style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Unfortunately, this did =
not=20
      work.</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Giving her =
effort up as a=20
      lost cause, Eileen returned the Cult Master=92s mangled balls to =
their=20
      zip-lock bag and absentmindedly put them in her purse.<SPAN=20
      style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Like Thales of yore, =
Eileen=20
      sometimes wanders about with her wits focused on things other than =
where=20
      she is going or what she is doing.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes">&nbsp;=20
      </SPAN>Consequently, her purse was snatched.</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">When the =
snatcher opened=20
      the purse to extract its treasures, the first thing he discovered =
was the=20
      Cult Master=92s tiny, mangled balls.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes">&nbsp;=20
      </SPAN>This so thoroughly discommoded the snatcher that he threw =
the=20
      zip-lock bag with the tiny scarlet, rotten beet look-alikes into =
the first=20
      automobile with an open window he found.</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Miraculously, =
the receiving=20
      vessel belonged to Norma Stonewell, internationally famous =
painter.<SPAN=20
      style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Stonewell had recently =
and=20
      graciously volunteered to do an 11 x 8 foot inspirational painting =
for the=20
      University of Idaho=92s Women=92s Center.<SPAN=20
      style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>She was artistically =
blocked,=20
      however, because she was unable to find a pigment of just the =
right color=20
      for strategic parts of her brilliant artistic conception.</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Talk about =
divine=20
      serendipity! <SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>The =
Cult=20
      Master=92s balls were exactly the natural color Stonewell was =
looking=20
      for!</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">The rest is =
history.<SPAN=20
      style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Stonewell immediately =
took the=20
      Cult Master=92s testicles to her studio. <SPAN=20
      style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>Norma then crushed and =
ground=20
      Douglas Wilson=92s balls with her massive mortar and pestle, =
adding secret=20
      ingredients and thus making pigment from them.<SPAN=20
      style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>She then painted =
feverishly for=20
      several weeks to produce her now famous masterpiece of classical =
religious=20
      allegory.</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">As most of you =
know the=20
      painting depicts a young woman standing triumphantly over the body =
of a=20
      dead pastor who had just ordered her death by stoning in a great,=20
      blithering rage. <SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>The young=20
      woman had dared to declare that women have the same rights as =
men!<SPAN=20
      style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The pastor depicted in =
the=20
      painting is an utterly unmistakable image of the gluttonous =
Douglas=20
      Wilson.</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Exhibiting a =
brilliant=20
      stroke of divinely inspired, stunning symbolism and subtext, the =
painting=20
      clearly shows that the pastor choked to death after swallowing a=20
      gargantuan gob of eagle feces. <SPAN=20
      style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>There is no other =
reasonable=20
      interpretation than this massive, multi-colored, amorphous mass =
fell from=20
      the sky just as the pastor was looking upward exhorting God to =
visit holy,=20
      heinous, basaltic vengeance on the young woman.</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Stonewell=92s =
vivid,=20
      meticulous portraiture of the nearby, still circling eagle and the =

      scrupulously detailed partially saliva-covered flecks and jagged =
clumps of=20
      eagle feces spewed in and around the mouth and beard of the dead =
pastor=20
      (whose lips and interior mouth were colored in part using the =
pigment=20
      described above) are considered to be the finest examples of=20
      micro-detailing in the history of painting.<SPAN=20
      style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>In fact, as most know, =
Stonewell=20
      unanimously won the Nobel Prize for this magnificent work of art =
as well=20
      as unanimously winning many other prestigious awards.<SPAN=20
      style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Many claim that in =
voting for all=20
      these awards, the juries were directly guided by the hand of =
God.</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Norma =
Stonewell=92s painting,=20
      entitled =93<B style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: normal">God Drops a =
Hint</B>=94,=20
      adorns a wall of the UI Women=92s Center.<SPAN=20
      style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Despite having lost his =
balls,=20
      this exhibition must make Cult Master Douglas Wilson feel =
especially warm=20
      and prickly all over:<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; =
</SPAN>His=20
      former testicles are now helping to inspire women of all ages, =
races, and=20
      sexual orientations toward achieving full equality and full=20
      self-realization.</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">In a previous =
posting the=20
      following was mentioned when Wilson=92s son-in-law, Ben Merkle, =
also lost=20
      his balls also to Rose Huskey=92s castrating wit.<SPAN=20
      style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>(Now, Ben=92s balls are =
enshrined in=20
      the giant jar of pickled eggs at the Corner Club.) <SPAN=20
      style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>According to the =
Know-Alls at <A=20
      href=3D"http://www.christkirk.com/">Christian Bestiality</A>, =
testicles from=20
      an Athabaskan pygmy goat could normally be transplanted onto the =
Cult=20
      Master.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>This was =
diligently=20
      and strenuously tried, but unfortunately, the operation was a=20
      failure.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>The goat =
testicles=20
      rejected the patient.</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Sincerely,</P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal=20
      style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p>&nbsp;<BR>Wayne</o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT =
size=3D5><FONT=20
      size=3D4><FONT size=3D3>Art Deco&nbsp; (Wayne Fox)<BR></FONT><A=20
      href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com"><FONT=20
      size=3D3>deco@moscow.com</FONT></A></FONT></FONT></o:p></P>
      <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT =
size=3D5><FONT=20
      size=3D4><BR>&nbsp;</P></FONT></FONT></o:p></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D4>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D4>From: "Saundra Lund" &lt;</FONT><A=20
      href=3D"mailto:sslund@adelphia.net"><FONT=20
      size=3D4>sslund@adelphia.net</FONT></A><FONT =
size=3D4>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D4>To: "'Art Deco aka W. Fox'" &lt;</FONT><A=20
      href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com"><FONT =
size=3D4>deco@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT=20
      size=3D4>&gt;; "'Vision 2020'" &lt;</FONT><A=20
      href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT=20
      size=3D4>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT =
size=3D4>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 10:07 =
AM</FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D4>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Cult Master: Women =
should not=20
      be able to choose to defend their country</FONT></DIV></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D4><BR></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D4>| Hi Mr. Fox,<BR>| <BR>| I'm not at all =
surprised by=20
      Wilson's Absent Without Leave blog entry.&nbsp; For<BR>| the =
benefit of=20
      new V2020 members and for those who may have missed it the<BR>| =
first time=20
      around, I'm going to repost part of my "Why Moscow?" post from =
a<BR>|=20
      couple of months ago.<BR>| <BR>| Wilson has written:<BR>| "If =
those who=20
      hate the Word of God can succeed in getting Christians to be<BR>|=20
      embarrassed by any portion of the Word of God, then that portion =
will<BR>|=20
      continually be employed as a battering ram against the godly =
principles=20
      that<BR>| are currently under attack.&nbsp; In our day, three of =
the=20
      principal issues are<BR>| abortion, feminism, and sodomy."<BR>| =
</FONT><A=20
      href=3D"http://www.credenda.org/old/issues/vol4/them4-6.htm"><FONT =

      =
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R><FONT=20
      size=3D4>| <BR>| Clearly, then, we understand Wilson and his =
church's=20
      position on "abortion,<BR>| feminism, and sodomy."&nbsp; =
&lt;sigh&gt;<BR>|=20
      <BR>| However, how many of us knew that Wilson's opposition to =
equal=20
      rights for<BR>| women is rabid enough that should women be allowed =
in=20
      combat to defend our<BR>| country, he would advocate the =
following?<BR>|=20
      <BR>| "The American military is currently acting the part of a =
weak=20
      sister.&nbsp; The<BR>| pressure is on to bring women into combat =
roles. .=20
      . Indications of our<BR>| cultural dissolution are legion these =
days, but=20
      this one ranks in the top<BR>| five . . . A nation defended by her =
women=20
      is a nation no longer worth<BR>| defending.&nbsp; When women are =
placed in=20
      the front line of defense, every<BR>| Christian man should walk =
away from=20
      the cause of that nation as being<BR>| beneath contempt.&nbsp; =
Taking this=20
      a step further, a nation as far gone as to<BR>| think that women =
in combat=20
      is a viable way to go is a nation which is no<BR>| longer =
defensible in=20
      principle-even if there remains a misguided desire to<BR>| defend=20
      it.&nbsp; Men who understand their duties in this regard . . . =
should<BR>|=20
      recognize that the result of all our evangelical dithering about =
is that=20
      the<BR>| nation which we call the United States has already been=20
      lost."<BR>| </FONT><A=20
      href=3D"http://www.credenda.org/issues/10-3husbandry.php"><FONT=20
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size=3D4>http://www.credenda.org/issues/10-3husbandry.php</FONT></A><BR><=
FONT=20
      size=3D4>| <BR>| Wow!<BR>| <BR>| Since the US is already "lost," =
what, then,=20
      is a man to do?&nbsp; Well, never<BR>| fear because Wilson has =
your=20
      answer, and it offers further insight into his<BR>| empire =
building here=20
      in Moscow:<BR>| <BR>| "Families should begin congregating in =
communities=20
      where these duties are<BR>| understood, and the men of those =
communities=20
      have every intention of<BR>| fulfilling those duties.&nbsp; =
Christian men=20
      who are in the military should get<BR>| out at the first lawful=20
      opportunity and move to a community where they may<BR>| defend =
their=20
      families instead of their current unwilling defense of the<BR>| =
feminist=20
      agenda . . . The prohibition to women in Deuteronomy 22:5 is =
one<BR>|=20
      which blindsides us.&nbsp; We knew abortion and homosexuality were =

      abominations."<BR>| <BR>| Double-wow!!&nbsp; So, is it Wilson's =
perception=20
      that *our* Moscow community<BR>| *doesn't* support women's rights =
(among=20
      other things)???&nbsp; I guess he thinks<BR>| it doesn't really =
matter=20
      what our community values since his empire is<BR>| recruiting =
people to=20
      move to our community who share his desires for a<BR>| theocracy =
-- I=20
      guess he figures (incorrectly, I hope) that has to start<BR>| =
someplace,=20
      so he's targeted our community as the first step&nbsp; :-(&nbsp; =
That=20
      seems<BR>| clear to me in spite of Wilson's public protestations=20
      otherwise.<BR>| <BR>| I hope and pray this community will continue =
to wake=20
      up and smell Wilson's<BR>| coffee . . . and understand *why* it's=20
      necessary to speak out against such<BR>| wickedness.&nbsp; He has =
a very=20
      clearly stated agenda that I believe is abhorrent<BR>| to our =
community=20
      and flatly antithetical to what makes our community Moscow.<BR>| =
<BR>|=20
      But, please, Please, PLEASE *don't* take my word for it!&nbsp; Go =
straight=20
      to the<BR>| horse's mouth and read Wilson's own published =
words.&nbsp;=20
      Compare and contrast<BR>| what he says when he's talking to others =
who=20
      share his beliefs with what he<BR>| says when he's addressing =
those who=20
      don't share his particular flavor of<BR>| Christianity.&nbsp; As a =

      community, I hope we will continue to use our collective<BR>| =
critical=20
      thinking skills to keep the wool from being pulled over our =
eyes.<BR>|=20
      <BR>| So, please remind me again:&nbsp; who is it that's supposed =
to be=20
      intolerant???<BR>| <BR>| <BR>| Saundra Lund<BR>| Proud =
Intoleristas<BR>|=20
      Moscow, ID<BR>| <BR>| -----Original Message-----<BR>| From: =
</FONT><A=20
      href=3D"mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com"><FONT=20
      size=3D4>vision2020-admin@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=3D4>=20
      [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] On<BR>| Behalf Of Art Deco =
aka W.=20
      Fox<BR>| Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 1:10 PM<BR>| To: Vision =
2020<BR>|=20
      Subject: [Vision2020] Cult Master: Women should not be able to =
choose=20
      to<BR>| defend their country<BR>| <BR>| <BR>| Normal Folks,<BR>| =
<BR>| The=20
      following is a dido (perhaps, some might uncivilly say "dildo"[you =

      can<BR>| infer his target]) from Christ Church Cult Master Douglas =

      Wilson's<BR>| self-sucking weblog (webblot?) </FONT><A=20
      href=3D"http://www.dougwils.com"><FONT=20
      size=3D4>www.dougwils.com</FONT></A><FONT size=3D4>. <BR>| <BR>| =
Not only=20
      should women be disallowed from being on the board of his =
two-bit<BR>|=20
      cult school, Bogus School, (despite the fact at the time of his=20
      initial<BR>| suggestion, both the President and Prime Minister of =
Finland=20
      were women),<BR>| but apparently women should not be given the =
freedom to=20
      choose how they wish<BR>| to serve their country!<BR>| <BR>| It =
also=20
      appears that it is more important to the Cult Master that he win =
his<BR>|=20
      private "cultural conflict" (anti-egalitarism) than it is for the =
U.S.=20
      to<BR>| bring the conflict in Iraq to a satisfactory conclusion =
(assuming=20
      one is<BR>| possible).<BR>| <BR>| Can you say "pathological =
egomaniacal=20
      megalomania" or the less polite<BR>| equivalent?<BR>| <BR>| =
Wayne<BR>|=20
      <BR>| Art Deco&nbsp; (Wayne Fox)<BR>| </FONT><A=20
      href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com"><FONT=20
      size=3D4>deco@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT size=3D4>| <BR>|=20
      __________________________________________________<BR>| <FONT=20
      face=3DGaramond size=3D3>Absent Without Leave<BR>| Topic: Current =
Events<BR>|=20
      <BR>| As the war in Iraq grinds on, multiple lessons can be =
gleaned from=20
      it. And<BR>| not all the lessons have anything to do with the =
tactical=20
      details of this<BR>| particular war.<BR>| <BR>| One of the most =
strking=20
      things about this conflict is that when I see<BR>| talking heads =
on the=20
      teevee talking about it, whether they support or oppose<BR>| the =
war,=20
      whether they are conservative or liberal, they always manage to =
get<BR>|=20
      in something about how they of course support "our brave men and =
women"=20
      in<BR>| uniform. And there, with those two words -- "and women" -- =
we have=20
      a<BR>| showcase example of how our domestic kennel-fed =
conservative=20
      leaders do not<BR>| have any earthly idea of what kind of cultural =

      conflict we are in.<BR>| Apparently victory in Iraq is important =
enough=20
      that we should purchase it<BR>| through fundamental defeats here =
at=20
      home.<BR>| <BR>| When young girls are killed or maimed in combat, =
where=20
      are the leading<BR>| conservative spokesmen who take the =
opportunity to=20
      raise the point and press<BR>| it? Why does no one point out that =
the=20
      abomination is, you know, abominable?<BR>| Of course, they don't =
do it=20
      then out of consideration for the grieving<BR>| families. And they =
don't=20
      do it later because there is no reason to when the<BR>| heat is =
off. For=20
      all the saber-rattling conservatives can do when it comes<BR>| to =
fighting=20
      backward nations with high-tech weaponry, when it comes to an<BR>| =
issue=20
      that might require actual courage from them, they are to use =
a<BR>|=20
      military term, AWOL.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
      <DIV><FONT size=3D4><FONT face=3DGaramond size=3D3><BR>| <FONT =
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      size=3D1>Posted by Douglas Wilson - 4/30/2004 9:22:06 =
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