[Vision2020] Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund
Art Deco aka W. Fox
deco@moscow.com
Mon, 3 May 2004 19:25:13 -0700
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Janesta,
I am sorry if I did not notice that your previous message to me was not sent to
all Vision 2020 readers.
The [Vision 2020] heading was in the subject. Once seeing that, I carelessly
did not look at To: address. That was my mistake. Had I noticed the
differences in addresses, I would have responded to you privately. I again
apologize for not noticing the solo addressee on your email.
In some cases private messages resulting from Vision 2020 posts have been posted
to the entire forum for a variety of reasons. Your post was one that had I been
more careful, I would not have forwarded. I notice, however, the post below was
sent to the entire forum.
However, you did raise a legitimate issue: What ideas are allowable and how
are they to be allowed to be expressed on Vision 2020?
Perhaps, there are as many different opinions on this matter as there are Vision
2020 posters. We now have some idea of what Don Coombs' opinion is.
>From my previous answer you can tell that I was one of those that saw more than
prudishness when John Ashcroft covered the bare breasts of Justice. His
shrouding action was symbolic of his closed approach to what should be public
business and open to robust and varied discussion.
Thank you for your open remarks; I sincerely hope that you can forgive my
egregious mistake in accidentally making a private communication public.
Wayne
Art Deco (Wayne Fox)
deco@moscow.com
----- Original Message -----
From: JSullivan
To: Art Deco aka W. Fox ; Vision 2020
Cc: Nathan Alford Daily News ; LuJane Nisse Publisher ; Sharon Kehoe ; Vera
White Daily News ; Murf Raquet Daily News ; Ralph Nielsen
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's Testicles:
A Response to Saundra Lund
Is it a normal practice to forward on a private message from one party to the
other, in this forum..... to everyone? I am a very private person, and don't
appreciate this one iota. You can write whatever you want to, as can I. I just
find the breech of my private opinion to you, reenforces what I said to you,
albeit PRIVATELY, that you are a person lacking in manners AND class. Or was it
dignity and class? *nodding* I'll add manners to the list. For someone so
steadfast in lawyers doing the right thing in a court of law, you might want to
consider thinking about "doing the right thing" yourself. Just because you CAN
post my private message to you, in public, does not in ANY WAY mean that you
SHOULD.
As a matter of fact, I DO use the delete key on a regular basis. Less so these
days, since the religious haggling has died down somewhat.
Good day, Mr. Fox.
Janesta Carcich Sullivan
----- Original Message -----
From: Art Deco aka W. Fox
To: Vision 2020
Cc: Nathan Alford Daily News ; LuJane Nisse Publisher ; Sharon Kehoe ; Vera
White Daily News ; Murf Raquet Daily News ; Ralph Nielsen
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2004 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's
Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund
Janesta and those that share her point of view [all or in part],
Thank you for your comments.
It would miraculous and surprising if everyone one participating in an
online or other forum agreed with or was pleased by everything everyone else
wrote.
If I have read the many thousands of Vision 2020 posts and responses
correctly, many participants express a great variety of responses to other
postings: various nuances of agreement, anger, disgust, helplessness, amusement,
shock, befuddlement, cluelessness, etc. are evident. This is to be expected in
an open, public forum in a community with a wide variety of outlooks, manners of
expression, talents, subjects of interest, and gradients of education and
knowledge. Also to be considered: although many claim to, observations lead
one to believe that no one person or organization owns the truth -- the universe
is too complicated to be understood by a single person or group.
While Dan Carscallen and I do not always agree, I appreciate his terse
humor. I appreciate Sunil's polite, incisive, persistent commentary, and
Saundra Lund's, Rose Huskey's, and Joan Opyr's brisk, cutting irony, sarcasm,
and willingness to research facts. Although I seldom agreed with Dale Courtney,
I respected his willingness to present statistics and graphs to argue his point
of view. I appreciate Tom Hansen's sometimes emotional postings and labor
intensive, caring allied website. I don't always agree with Tim Lohrman, but I
try to see exactly where he is coming from and learn from it. LuJane and I have
quite different worldviews. The list could go on and on.
Each individual has their own point of view and preferences.
Similarly, when presenting a point of view, a writer has his choice of many
different literary devices. Depending on the circumstances, subject, stimulus,
and objectives, a writer attempts to choose, perhaps in error, the most
effective devices to reach their goals.
You find the device I used in the post at issue to be tasteless and
objectionable. There is no doubt that it is quite graphic parody -- a device
sometimes used by other Vision 2020 posters and surprise: millions of other
writers. Depending on their point of view and life's experience, some readers
might find such graphic parody extreme. Those that participate in national
on-line forums and/or frequently read OP-ED pages probably would not find it so.
I purposely changed the title of the thread at issue so as to warn potential
readers. When seeing the title "Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's
Testicles," the timid should guess that the content would not be as tame or as
civil as would the content expected in a post entitled "High Tea at Good
Samaritan Village." Delete keys have their uses.
I hope that most of us can agree that free expression of ideas and the way
chosen to express those ideas is one of the most important, fundamental elements
of an open, secular society. Just as you are free to say what you wish and how
to say it, others are also. That is what makes us free.
Each of us must choose which of our ever-evolving opinions to express and
how to express them to reach certain goals. It would be an exercise in extreme
egotism to think that one's writings would have a desirable, persuasive,
positive effect on all members of the reading audience. I entertain no such
hopes. In fact, I would be happy for a 5% positive response; perhaps even that
is too high.
Thank you again for your feedback. Your (or anyone else's) censorious use
of the delete key for any of my future posts would certainly be understandable
and not at all objectionable. However, please consider allowing each individual
the freedom to decide what to do with any particular posting -- each can invoke
their own censor without help from the rest of us.
Respectfully,
Wayne
Art Deco (Wayne Fox)
deco@moscow.com
----- Original Message -----
From: JSullivan
To: Art Deco aka W. Fox
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 8:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's
Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund
While I find little to concur with these days regarding Mr. Wilson, and
what he espouses, and I do consider myself "normal". I find this exercise in
writing to be in very poor taste for this forum. It shows a real lack of dignity
and class on your part, Mr. Fox. I fail to see the humor in it. Am I alone in
feeling this way?
Janesta Carcich Sullivan
----- Original Message -----
From: Art Deco aka W. Fox
To: Vision 2020 ; Saundra Lund
Cc: Nathan Alford Daily News ; LuJane Nisse Publisher ; Sharon Kehoe ;
Vera White Daily News ; Murf Raquet Daily News ; Ralph Nielsen
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 7:40 PM
Subject: [Vision2020] Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's
Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund
Saundra (and other Normal Folks),
Thank you for your Vision 2020 reposting, appropriately on Sunday, of
some of Moscow, Idaho Christ Church Cult Master Douglas Wilson's views on women.
Wilson's deep, gut-churning, almost-lethal-flatulence producing fear and
massive ignorance of women as well as his quavering horror of castration
torturously screams out from his writings. However, it is too late for him to
worry about losing his balls. Fait Accompli.
Further, it is particularly uncanny that you raised the issue of the
Cult Master's testicles at this particular time!
I've just been updated about their status by inside man Gray Greenphlegm
(Zoomie's Bakery, Booger's Coffee House, Greenphlegm Coffee, Balls and Crotch
Book Stall, etc.). The true story of the misadventures of the Cult Master's
balls is a marvelous, divinely inspired, modern religious parable.
We last heard of the Cult Master's balls when they were in the hands (no
pun intended) of Rose Huskey, sorceress and excisor by her wit of pathetic
Douglas Wilson's balls.
Rose was exhibiting these singular objects around the Palouse not only
because they formerly belonged to the Cult Master, but because of their curious,
unexpected properties. First, coming from such a large, obese man the testicles
were tiny and underdeveloped. Second, they were not ovoid but round like those
of a hyena. Third, they were not flesh colored but were an amazing bright
scarlet. "They look like rotten miniature beets!" exclaimed both attorney
Gregor Dickistoosmal and Aaron Retch of the Collegiate Deformed Fellowship.
Rose Huskey is a practical woman. For exhibition purposes, she was
carrying the Cult Master's testicles around in a zip-lock bag. Unfortunately,
she was almost run down in that dangerous crosswalk by the Moscow Police
Station. During her scurry, she accidentally dropped Douglas Wilson's balls.
Fortunately, they were immediately found by Eileen I. Wantout, famous,
eccentric Moscow sculptress and member of the Christ Church Cult.
It is well known that an insanely driving creative urge sometimes seizes
and possesses Ms. Wantout. This time the urge hit her when she was in a
semi-comatose state induced by listening to one of Douglas Wilson's taped
sermons. In her impaired state she mistook the Cult Master's balls for
play-dough. She then tried to fashion them into shapes of small animals and
religious icons. Unfortunately, this did not work.
Giving her effort up as a lost cause, Eileen returned the Cult Master's
mangled balls to their zip-lock bag and absentmindedly put them in her purse.
Like Thales of yore, Eileen sometimes wanders about with her wits focused on
things other than where she is going or what she is doing. Consequently, her
purse was snatched.
When the snatcher opened the purse to extract its treasures, the first
thing he discovered was the Cult Master's tiny, mangled balls. This so
thoroughly discommoded the snatcher that he threw the zip-lock bag with the tiny
scarlet, rotten beet look-alikes into the first automobile with an open window
he found.
Miraculously, the receiving vessel belonged to Norma Stonewell,
internationally famous painter. Stonewell had recently and graciously
volunteered to do an 11 x 8 foot inspirational painting for the University of
Idaho's Women's Center. She was artistically blocked, however, because she was
unable to find a pigment of just the right color for strategic parts of her
brilliant artistic conception.
Talk about divine serendipity! The Cult Master's balls were exactly the
natural color Stonewell was looking for!
The rest is history. Stonewell immediately took the Cult Master's
testicles to her studio. Norma then crushed and ground Douglas Wilson's balls
with her massive mortar and pestle, adding secret ingredients and thus making
pigment from them. She then painted feverishly for several weeks to produce her
now famous masterpiece of classical religious allegory.
As most of you know the painting depicts a young woman standing
triumphantly over the body of a dead pastor who had just ordered her death by
stoning in a great, blithering rage. The young woman had dared to declare that
women have the same rights as men! The pastor depicted in the painting is an
utterly unmistakable image of the gluttonous Douglas Wilson.
Exhibiting a brilliant stroke of divinely inspired, stunning symbolism
and subtext, the painting clearly shows that the pastor choked to death after
swallowing a gargantuan gob of eagle feces. There is no other reasonable
interpretation than this massive, multi-colored, amorphous mass fell from the
sky just as the pastor was looking upward exhorting God to visit holy, heinous,
basaltic vengeance on the young woman.
Stonewell's vivid, meticulous portraiture of the nearby, still circling
eagle and the scrupulously detailed partially saliva-covered flecks and jagged
clumps of eagle feces spewed in and around the mouth and beard of the dead
pastor (whose lips and interior mouth were colored in part using the pigment
described above) are considered to be the finest examples of micro-detailing in
the history of painting. In fact, as most know, Stonewell unanimously won the
Nobel Prize for this magnificent work of art as well as unanimously winning many
other prestigious awards. Many claim that in voting for all these awards, the
juries were directly guided by the hand of God.
Norma Stonewell's painting, entitled "God Drops a Hint", adorns a wall
of the UI Women's Center. Despite having lost his balls, this exhibition must
make Cult Master Douglas Wilson feel especially warm and prickly all over: His
former testicles are now helping to inspire women of all ages, races, and sexual
orientations toward achieving full equality and full self-realization.
In a previous posting the following was mentioned when Wilson's
son-in-law, Ben Merkle, also lost his balls also to Rose Huskey's castrating
wit. (Now, Ben's balls are enshrined in the giant jar of pickled eggs at the
Corner Club.) According to the Know-Alls at Christian Bestiality, testicles
from an Athabaskan pygmy goat could normally be transplanted onto the Cult
Master. This was diligently and strenuously tried, but unfortunately, the
operation was a failure. The goat testicles rejected the patient.
Sincerely,
Wayne
Art Deco (Wayne Fox)
deco@moscow.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund@adelphia.net>
To: "'Art Deco aka W. Fox'" <deco@moscow.com>; "'Vision 2020'"
<vision2020@moscow.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 10:07 AM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Cult Master: Women should not be able to
choose to defend their country
| Hi Mr. Fox,
|
| I'm not at all surprised by Wilson's Absent Without Leave blog entry.
For
| the benefit of new V2020 members and for those who may have missed it
the
| first time around, I'm going to repost part of my "Why Moscow?" post
from a
| couple of months ago.
|
| Wilson has written:
| "If those who hate the Word of God can succeed in getting Christians
to be
| embarrassed by any portion of the Word of God, then that portion will
| continually be employed as a battering ram against the godly
principles that
| are currently under attack. In our day, three of the principal issues
are
| abortion, feminism, and sodomy."
| http://www.credenda.org/old/issues/vol4/them4-6.htm
|
| Clearly, then, we understand Wilson and his church's position on
"abortion,
| feminism, and sodomy." <sigh>
|
| However, how many of us knew that Wilson's opposition to equal rights
for
| women is rabid enough that should women be allowed in combat to defend
our
| country, he would advocate the following?
|
| "The American military is currently acting the part of a weak sister.
The
| pressure is on to bring women into combat roles. . . Indications of
our
| cultural dissolution are legion these days, but this one ranks in the
top
| five . . . A nation defended by her women is a nation no longer worth
| defending. When women are placed in the front line of defense, every
| Christian man should walk away from the cause of that nation as being
| beneath contempt. Taking this a step further, a nation as far gone as
to
| think that women in combat is a viable way to go is a nation which is
no
| longer defensible in principle-even if there remains a misguided
desire to
| defend it. Men who understand their duties in this regard . . .
should
| recognize that the result of all our evangelical dithering about is
that the
| nation which we call the United States has already been lost."
| http://www.credenda.org/issues/10-3husbandry.php
|
| Wow!
|
| Since the US is already "lost," what, then, is a man to do? Well,
never
| fear because Wilson has your answer, and it offers further insight
into his
| empire building here in Moscow:
|
| "Families should begin congregating in communities where these duties
are
| understood, and the men of those communities have every intention of
| fulfilling those duties. Christian men who are in the military should
get
| out at the first lawful opportunity and move to a community where they
may
| defend their families instead of their current unwilling defense of
the
| feminist agenda . . . The prohibition to women in Deuteronomy 22:5 is
one
| which blindsides us. We knew abortion and homosexuality were
abominations."
|
| Double-wow!! So, is it Wilson's perception that *our* Moscow
community
| *doesn't* support women's rights (among other things)??? I guess he
thinks
| it doesn't really matter what our community values since his empire is
| recruiting people to move to our community who share his desires for a
| theocracy -- I guess he figures (incorrectly, I hope) that has to
start
| someplace, so he's targeted our community as the first step :-( That
seems
| clear to me in spite of Wilson's public protestations otherwise.
|
| I hope and pray this community will continue to wake up and smell
Wilson's
| coffee . . . and understand *why* it's necessary to speak out against
such
| wickedness. He has a very clearly stated agenda that I believe is
abhorrent
| to our community and flatly antithetical to what makes our community
Moscow.
|
| But, please, Please, PLEASE *don't* take my word for it! Go straight
to the
| horse's mouth and read Wilson's own published words. Compare and
contrast
| what he says when he's talking to others who share his beliefs with
what he
| says when he's addressing those who don't share his particular flavor
of
| Christianity. As a community, I hope we will continue to use our
collective
| critical thinking skills to keep the wool from being pulled over our
eyes.
|
| So, please remind me again: who is it that's supposed to be
intolerant???
|
|
| Saundra Lund
| Proud Intoleristas
| Moscow, ID
|
| -----Original Message-----
| From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]
On
| Behalf Of Art Deco aka W. Fox
| Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 1:10 PM
| To: Vision 2020
| Subject: [Vision2020] Cult Master: Women should not be able to choose
to
| defend their country
|
|
| Normal Folks,
|
| The following is a dido (perhaps, some might uncivilly say "dildo"[you
can
| infer his target]) from Christ Church Cult Master Douglas Wilson's
| self-sucking weblog (webblot?) www.dougwils.com.
|
| Not only should women be disallowed from being on the board of his
two-bit
| cult school, Bogus School, (despite the fact at the time of his
initial
| suggestion, both the President and Prime Minister of Finland were
women),
| but apparently women should not be given the freedom to choose how
they wish
| to serve their country!
|
| It also appears that it is more important to the Cult Master that he
win his
| private "cultural conflict" (anti-egalitarism) than it is for the U.S.
to
| bring the conflict in Iraq to a satisfactory conclusion (assuming one
is
| possible).
|
| Can you say "pathological egomaniacal megalomania" or the less polite
| equivalent?
|
| Wayne
|
| Art Deco (Wayne Fox)
| deco@moscow.com
|
| __________________________________________________
| Absent Without Leave
| Topic: Current Events
|
| As the war in Iraq grinds on, multiple lessons can be gleaned from it.
And
| not all the lessons have anything to do with the tactical details of
this
| particular war.
|
| One of the most strking things about this conflict is that when I see
| talking heads on the teevee talking about it, whether they support or
oppose
| the war, whether they are conservative or liberal, they always manage
to get
| in something about how they of course support "our brave men and
women" in
| uniform. And there, with those two words -- "and women" -- we have a
| showcase example of how our domestic kennel-fed conservative leaders
do not
| have any earthly idea of what kind of cultural conflict we are in.
| Apparently victory in Iraq is important enough that we should purchase
it
| through fundamental defeats here at home.
|
| When young girls are killed or maimed in combat, where are the leading
| conservative spokesmen who take the opportunity to raise the point and
press
| it? Why does no one point out that the abomination is, you know,
abominable?
| Of course, they don't do it then out of consideration for the grieving
| families. And they don't do it later because there is no reason to
when the
| heat is off. For all the saber-rattling conservatives can do when it
comes
| to fighting backward nations with high-tech weaponry, when it comes to
an
| issue that might require actual courage from them, they are to use a
| military term, AWOL.
| Posted by Douglas Wilson - 4/30/2004 9:22:06 AM
| http://www.dougwils.com/index.asp?Action=Anchor&CategoryID=1&BlogID=64
|
|
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<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Janesta,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D4>I am sorry if I did not notice that your previous =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D4>The [Vision 2020] heading was in the subject. =
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mistake. Had I noticed the differences in addresses, I would have=20
responded to you privately. I again apologize for not noticing the =
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addressee on your email.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D4>In some cases private messages resulting from Vision =
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posts have been posted to the entire forum for a variety of =
reasons. Your=20
post was one that had I been more careful, I would not have =
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notice, however, the post below was sent to the entire =
forum.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D4>However, you did raise a legitimate =
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ideas are allowable and how are they to be allowed to be=20
expressed on Vision 2020? </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Perhaps, there are as many different opinions on =
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as there are Vision 2020 posters. We now have some idea of what =
Don=20
Coombs' opinion is.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>From my previous answer you can tell that I was one =
of those=20
that saw more than prudishness when John Ashcroft covered the bare =
breasts of=20
Justice. His shrouding action was symbolic of his closed approach =
to what=20
should be public business and open to robust and varied =
discussion.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Thank you for your open remarks; I sincerely hope =
that you can=20
forgive my egregious mistake in accidentally making a private =
communication=20
public.</FONT></DIV><FONT size=3D4>
<DIV><BR>Wayne</DIV>
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<DIV>Art Deco (Wayne Fox)<BR><A=20
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2020</A> </DIV>
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href=3D"mailto:alford@dnews.com">Nathan Alford Daily News</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dlujane@lataheagle.com =
href=3D"mailto:lujane@lataheagle.com">LuJane Nisse=20
Publisher</A> ; <A title=3Dskehoe@uidaho.edu=20
href=3D"mailto:skehoe@uidaho.edu">Sharon Kehoe</A> ; <A =
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href=3D"mailto:VeraWhite@aol.com">Vera White Daily News</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dmurf@dnews.com href=3D"mailto:murf@dnews.com">Murf Raquet =
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<A title=3Dnielsen@uidaho.edu href=3D"mailto:nielsen@uidaho.edu">Ralph =
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 03, 2004 6:13 =
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] =
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Story of the Cult Master's Testicles: A Response to Saundra Lund</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Is it a normal practice to =
forward on a=20
private message from one party to the other, in this forum..... =
to=20
everyone? I am a very private person, and don't appreciate this one =
iota. You=20
can write whatever you want to, as can I. I just find the breech of my =
private=20
opinion to you, reenforces what I said to you, albeit PRIVATELY, that =
you are=20
a person lacking in manners AND class. Or was it dignity and class? =
*nodding*=20
I'll add manners to the list. For someone so steadfast in =
lawyers doing=20
the right thing in a court of law, you might want to consider thinking =
about=20
"doing the right thing" yourself. Just because you CAN post my private =
message=20
to you, in public, does not in ANY WAY mean that you SHOULD. =
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>As a matter of fact, I DO use the =
delete key on a=20
regular basis. Less so these days, since the religious haggling =
has died=20
down somewhat. </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Good day, Mr. Fox.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Janesta Carcich Sullivan</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ddeco@moscow.com href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco =
aka W.=20
Fox</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dalford@dnews.com=20
href=3D"mailto:alford@dnews.com">Nathan Alford Daily News</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dlujane@lataheagle.com =
href=3D"mailto:lujane@lataheagle.com">LuJane Nisse=20
Publisher</A> ; <A title=3Dskehoe@uidaho.edu=20
href=3D"mailto:skehoe@uidaho.edu">Sharon Kehoe</A> ; <A=20
title=3DVeraWhite@aol.com href=3D"mailto:VeraWhite@aol.com">Vera =
White Daily=20
News</A> ; <A title=3Dmurf@dnews.com =
href=3D"mailto:murf@dnews.com">Murf Raquet=20
Daily News</A> ; <A title=3Dnielsen@uidaho.edu=20
href=3D"mailto:nielsen@uidaho.edu">Ralph Nielsen</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, May 03, 2004 =
9:11=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] =
Inspirational=20
Story of the Cult Master's Testicles: A Response to Saundra =
Lund</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Janesta and those that share her point of view =
[all or in=20
part],</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Thank you for your comments.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>It would miraculous and surprising if everyone=20
one participating in an online or other forum agreed with =
or was=20
pleased by everything everyone else wrote.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>If I have read the many thousands of Vision 2020 =
posts and=20
responses correctly, many participants express a great variety of =
responses=20
to other postings: various nuances of agreement, anger, disgust,=20
helplessness, amusement, shock, befuddlement, cluelessness, =
etc. are=20
evident. This is to be expected in an open, public =
forum in a=20
community with a wide variety of outlooks, manners of expression,=20
talents, subjects of interest, and gradients of education =
and=20
knowledge. Also to be considered: although many claim =
to,=20
observations lead one to believe that no one person or organization =
owns the=20
truth -- the universe is too complicated to be understood by a=20
single person or group.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>While Dan Carscallen and I do not always agree, =
I=20
appreciate his terse humor. I appreciate Sunil's polite, =
incisive,=20
persistent commentary, and Saundra Lund's, Rose Huskey's, and Joan =
Opyr's=20
brisk, cutting irony, sarcasm, and willingness to research =
facts. =20
Although I seldom agreed with Dale Courtney, I respected his =
willingness to=20
present statistics and graphs to argue his point of view. I =
appreciate=20
Tom Hansen's sometimes emotional postings and labor intensive, =
caring allied=20
website. I don't always agree with Tim Lohrman, but I try =
to see=20
exactly where he is coming from and learn from it. LuJane =
and I=20
have quite different worldviews. The list could go on and=20
on.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Each individual has their own point of view and=20
preferences.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Similarly, when presenting a point of view, a =
writer has=20
his choice of many different literary devices. Depending on =
the=20
circumstances, subject, stimulus, and objectives, a writer attempts =
to=20
choose, perhaps in error, the most effective devices to reach =
their=20
goals.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>You find the device I used in the post at issue =
to be=20
tasteless and objectionable. There is no doubt that it is =
quite=20
graphic parody -- a device sometimes used by other Vision =
2020=20
posters and surprise: millions of other writers. =
Depending=20
on their point of view and life's experience, some readers =
might find=20
such graphic parody extreme. Those that participate =
in national=20
on-line forums and/or frequently read OP-ED pages probably would not =
find it=20
so.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>I purposely changed the title of the thread at =
issue so as=20
to warn potential readers. When seeing the title =
"Inspirational Story=20
of the Cult Master's Testicles," the timid should guess that the =
content=20
would not be as tame or as civil as would the content =
expected in=20
a post entitled "High Tea at Good Samaritan Village." Delete =
keys have=20
their uses.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>I hope that most of us can agree that free =
expression of=20
ideas and the way chosen to express those ideas is one of =
the most=20
important, fundamental elements of an open, secular =
society. Just=20
as you are free to say what you wish and how to say it, others are=20
also. That is what makes us free.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Each of us must choose which of our =
ever-evolving opinions=20
to express and how to express them to reach certain goals. It =
would be=20
an exercise in extreme egotism to think that one's writings would =
have a=20
desirable, persuasive, positive effect on all members of the reading =
audience. I entertain no such hopes. In fact, I would be =
happy=20
for a 5% positive response; perhaps even that is too =
high.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Thank you again for your feedback. Your =
(or anyone=20
else's) censorious use of the delete key for any of my future posts =
would=20
certainly be understandable and not at all objectionable. =
However,=20
please consider allowing each individual the freedom to decide what =
to do=20
with any particular posting -- each can invoke their own censor =
without help=20
from the rest of us.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Respectfully,</FONT></DIV><FONT size=3D4>
<DIV><BR>Wayne</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Art Deco (Wayne Fox)<BR><A=20
href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">deco@moscow.com</A><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Djsullivan@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:jsullivan@moscow.com">JSullivan</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Ddeco@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco aka W. Fox</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 02, 2004 =
8:30=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020]=20
Inspirational Story of the Cult Master's Testicles: A Response to =
Saundra=20
Lund</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>While I find little =
to concur with=20
these days regarding Mr. Wilson, and what he =
espouses, and I do=20
consider myself "normal". I find this exercise in writing to =
be in=20
very poor taste for this forum. It shows a real lack of dignity =
and class=20
on your part, Mr. Fox. I fail to see the humor in it. Am I alone =
in=20
feeling this way?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Janesta Carcich =
Sullivan</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- =
</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ddeco@moscow.com href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art =
Deco aka W.=20
Fox</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">Vision 2020</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dsslund@adelphia.net =
href=3D"mailto:sslund@adelphia.net">Saundra=20
Lund</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
title=3Dalford@dnews.com=20
href=3D"mailto:alford@dnews.com">Nathan Alford Daily News</A> ; =
<A=20
title=3Dlujane@lataheagle.com =
href=3D"mailto:lujane@lataheagle.com">LuJane=20
Nisse Publisher</A> ; <A title=3Dskehoe@uidaho.edu=20
href=3D"mailto:skehoe@uidaho.edu">Sharon Kehoe</A> ; <A=20
title=3DVeraWhite@aol.com href=3D"mailto:VeraWhite@aol.com">Vera =
White Daily=20
News</A> ; <A title=3Dmurf@dnews.com =
href=3D"mailto:murf@dnews.com">Murf=20
Raquet Daily News</A> ; <A title=3Dnielsen@uidaho.edu=20
href=3D"mailto:nielsen@uidaho.edu">Ralph Nielsen</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, May 02, =
2004 7:40=20
PM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] =
Inspirational=20
Story of the Cult Master's Testicles: A Response to Saundra =
Lund</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4></FONT>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Saundra (and =
other Normal=20
Folks),</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Thank you for =
your Vision=20
2020 reposting, appropriately on Sunday, of some of Moscow, =
Idaho Christ=20
Church Cult Master Douglas Wilson=92s views on women.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Wilson=92s =
deep,=20
gut-churning, almost-lethal-flatulence producing fear and =
massive=20
ignorance of women as well as his quavering horror of castration =
torturously screams out from his writings.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>However, it is too =
late for him=20
to worry about losing his balls.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> =20
</SPAN>Fait Accompli.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Further, it =
is=20
<STRONG>particularly uncanny</STRONG> that you raised the issue =
of the=20
Cult Master=92s testicles at this particular time!</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">I=92ve just =
been updated=20
about their status by inside man Gray Greenphlegm (Zoomie=92s =
Bakery,=20
Booger=92s Coffee House, Greenphlegm Coffee, Balls and Crotch =
Book Stall,=20
etc.). <SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The true =
story of=20
the misadventures of the Cult Master=92s balls is a marvelous, =
divinely=20
inspired, modern religious parable.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">We last heard =
of the Cult=20
Master=92s balls when they were in the hands (no pun intended) =
of Rose=20
Huskey, sorceress and excisor by her wit of pathetic Douglas =
Wilson=92s=20
balls.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Rose was =
exhibiting these=20
singular objects around the Palouse not only because they =
formerly=20
belonged to the Cult Master, but because of their curious, =
unexpected=20
properties.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN>First, coming=20
from such a large, obese man the testicles were tiny and=20
underdeveloped.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN>Second,=20
they were not ovoid but round like those of a hyena.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Third, they were not =
flesh=20
colored but were an amazing bright scarlet.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>=93They look like =
rotten miniature=20
beets!=94 exclaimed both attorney Gregor Dickistoosmal and Aaron =
Retch of=20
the Collegiate Deformed Fellowship.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Rose Huskey =
is a=20
practical woman.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN>For=20
exhibition purposes, she was carrying the Cult Master=92s =
testicles around=20
in a zip-lock bag.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =20
</SPAN>Unfortunately, she was almost run down in that dangerous=20
crosswalk by the Moscow Police Station.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>During her scurry, she =
accidentally dropped Douglas Wilson=92s balls.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Fortunately, =
they were=20
immediately found by Eileen I. Wantout, famous, eccentric Moscow =
sculptress and member of the Christ Church Cult.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">It is well =
known that an=20
insanely driving creative urge sometimes seizes and possesses =
Ms.=20
Wantout.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This =
time the urge=20
hit her when she was in a semi-comatose state induced by =
listening to=20
one of Douglas Wilson=92s taped sermons.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In her impaired state =
she=20
mistook the Cult Master=92s balls for play-dough.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>She then tried to =
fashion them=20
into shapes of small animals and religious icons.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Unfortunately, this =
did not=20
work.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Giving her =
effort up as a=20
lost cause, Eileen returned the Cult Master=92s mangled balls to =
their=20
zip-lock bag and absentmindedly put them in her purse.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Like Thales of yore, =
Eileen=20
sometimes wanders about with her wits focused on things other =
than where=20
she is going or what she is doing.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> =20
</SPAN>Consequently, her purse was snatched.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">When the =
snatcher opened=20
the purse to extract its treasures, the first thing he =
discovered was=20
the Cult Master=92s tiny, mangled balls.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This so thoroughly =
discommoded=20
the snatcher that he threw the zip-lock bag with the tiny =
scarlet,=20
rotten beet look-alikes into the first automobile with an open =
window he=20
found.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Miraculously, =
the=20
receiving vessel belonged to Norma Stonewell, internationally =
famous=20
painter.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN>Stonewell had=20
recently and graciously volunteered to do an 11 x 8 foot =
inspirational=20
painting for the University of Idaho=92s Women=92s Center.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>She was artistically =
blocked,=20
however, because she was unable to find a pigment of just the =
right=20
color for strategic parts of her brilliant artistic =
conception.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Talk about =
divine=20
serendipity! <SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The =
Cult=20
Master=92s balls were exactly the natural color Stonewell was =
looking=20
for!</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">The rest is =
history.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Stonewell immediately =
took the=20
Cult Master=92s testicles to her studio. <SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Norma then crushed and =
ground=20
Douglas Wilson=92s balls with her massive mortar and pestle, =
adding secret=20
ingredients and thus making pigment from them.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>She then painted =
feverishly for=20
several weeks to produce her now famous masterpiece of classical =
religious allegory.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">As most of =
you know the=20
painting depicts a young woman standing triumphantly over the =
body of a=20
dead pastor who had just ordered her death by stoning in a =
great,=20
blithering rage. <SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> </SPAN>The young=20
woman had dared to declare that women have the same rights as =
men!<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The pastor depicted in =
the=20
painting is an utterly unmistakable image of the gluttonous =
Douglas=20
Wilson.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Exhibiting a =
brilliant=20
stroke of divinely inspired, stunning symbolism and subtext, the =
painting clearly shows that the pastor choked to death after =
swallowing=20
a gargantuan gob of eagle feces. <SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>There is no other =
reasonable=20
interpretation than this massive, multi-colored, amorphous mass =
fell=20
from the sky just as the pastor was looking upward exhorting God =
to=20
visit holy, heinous, basaltic vengeance on the young woman.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Stonewell=92s =
vivid,=20
meticulous portraiture of the nearby, still circling eagle and =
the=20
scrupulously detailed partially saliva-covered flecks and jagged =
clumps=20
of eagle feces spewed in and around the mouth and beard of the =
dead=20
pastor (whose lips and interior mouth were colored in part using =
the=20
pigment described above) are considered to be the finest =
examples of=20
micro-detailing in the history of painting.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>In fact, as most know, =
Stonewell=20
unanimously won the Nobel Prize for this magnificent work of art =
as well=20
as unanimously winning many other prestigious awards.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Many claim that in =
voting for=20
all these awards, the juries were directly guided by the hand of =
God.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Norma =
Stonewell=92s=20
painting, entitled =93<B style=3D"mso-bidi-font-weight: =
normal">God Drops a=20
Hint</B>=94, adorns a wall of the UI Women=92s Center.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Despite having lost =
his balls,=20
this exhibition must make Cult Master Douglas Wilson feel =
especially=20
warm and prickly all over:<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> =20
</SPAN>His former testicles are now helping to inspire women of =
all=20
ages, races, and sexual orientations toward achieving full =
equality and=20
full self-realization.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">In a previous =
posting the=20
following was mentioned when Wilson=92s son-in-law, Ben Merkle, =
also lost=20
his balls also to Rose Huskey=92s castrating wit.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Now, Ben=92s balls =
are enshrined=20
in the giant jar of pickled eggs at the Corner Club.) <SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>According to the =
Know-Alls at <A=20
href=3D"http://www.christkirk.com/">Christian Bestiality</A>, =
testicles=20
from an Athabaskan pygmy goat could normally be transplanted =
onto the=20
Cult Master.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>This =
was=20
diligently and strenuously tried, but unfortunately, the =
operation was a=20
failure.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>The goat =
testicles=20
rejected the patient.</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt"><o:p> </o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in =
0pt">Sincerely,</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal=20
style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p> <BR>Wayne</o:p></P>
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size=3D4><FONT size=3D3>Art Deco (Wayne Fox)<BR></FONT><A=20
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<DIV><FONT size=3D4>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>From: "Saundra Lund" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:sslund@adelphia.net"><FONT=20
size=3D4>sslund@adelphia.net</FONT></A><FONT =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D4>To: "'Art Deco aka W. Fox'" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com"><FONT=20
size=3D4>deco@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=3D4>>; "'Vision =
2020'"=20
<</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT=20
size=3D4>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT =
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<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 10:07 =
AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Cult Master: Women =
should=20
not be able to choose to defend their country</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D4>| Hi Mr. Fox,<BR>| <BR>| I'm not at all =
surprised by=20
Wilson's Absent Without Leave blog entry. For<BR>| the =
benefit of=20
new V2020 members and for those who may have missed it the<BR>| =
first=20
time around, I'm going to repost part of my "Why Moscow?" post =
from=20
a<BR>| couple of months ago.<BR>| <BR>| Wilson has written:<BR>| =
"If=20
those who hate the Word of God can succeed in getting Christians =
to=20
be<BR>| embarrassed by any portion of the Word of God, then that =
portion=20
will<BR>| continually be employed as a battering ram against the =
godly=20
principles that<BR>| are currently under attack. In our =
day, three=20
of the principal issues are<BR>| abortion, feminism, and =
sodomy."<BR>|=20
</FONT><A=20
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size=3D4>http://www.credenda.org/old/issues/vol4/them4-6.htm</FONT></A><B=
R><FONT=20
size=3D4>| <BR>| Clearly, then, we understand Wilson and his =
church's=20
position on "abortion,<BR>| feminism, and sodomy." =20
<sigh><BR>| <BR>| However, how many of us knew that =
Wilson's=20
opposition to equal rights for<BR>| women is rabid enough that =
should=20
women be allowed in combat to defend our<BR>| country, he would =
advocate=20
the following?<BR>| <BR>| "The American military is currently =
acting the=20
part of a weak sister. The<BR>| pressure is on to bring =
women into=20
combat roles. . . Indications of our<BR>| cultural dissolution =
are=20
legion these days, but this one ranks in the top<BR>| five . . . =
A=20
nation defended by her women is a nation no longer worth<BR>|=20
defending. When women are placed in the front line of =
defense,=20
every<BR>| Christian man should walk away from the cause of that =
nation=20
as being<BR>| beneath contempt. Taking this a step =
further, a=20
nation as far gone as to<BR>| think that women in combat is a =
viable way=20
to go is a nation which is no<BR>| longer defensible in =
principle-even=20
if there remains a misguided desire to<BR>| defend it. Men =
who=20
understand their duties in this regard . . . should<BR>| =
recognize that=20
the result of all our evangelical dithering about is that =
the<BR>|=20
nation which we call the United States has already been =
lost."<BR>|=20
</FONT><A =
href=3D"http://www.credenda.org/issues/10-3husbandry.php"><FONT=20
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size=3D4>http://www.credenda.org/issues/10-3husbandry.php</FONT></A><BR><=
FONT=20
size=3D4>| <BR>| Wow!<BR>| <BR>| Since the US is already "lost," =
what,=20
then, is a man to do? Well, never<BR>| fear because Wilson =
has=20
your answer, and it offers further insight into his<BR>| empire =
building=20
here in Moscow:<BR>| <BR>| "Families should begin congregating =
in=20
communities where these duties are<BR>| understood, and the men =
of those=20
communities have every intention of<BR>| fulfilling those =
duties. =20
Christian men who are in the military should get<BR>| out at the =
first=20
lawful opportunity and move to a community where they may<BR>| =
defend=20
their families instead of their current unwilling defense of =
the<BR>|=20
feminist agenda . . . The prohibition to women in Deuteronomy =
22:5 is=20
one<BR>| which blindsides us. We knew abortion and =
homosexuality=20
were abominations."<BR>| <BR>| Double-wow!! So, is it =
Wilson's=20
perception that *our* Moscow community<BR>| *doesn't* support =
women's=20
rights (among other things)??? I guess he thinks<BR>| it =
doesn't=20
really matter what our community values since his empire is<BR>| =
recruiting people to move to our community who share his desires =
for=20
a<BR>| theocracy -- I guess he figures (incorrectly, I hope) =
that has to=20
start<BR>| someplace, so he's targeted our community as the =
first=20
step :-( That seems<BR>| clear to me in spite of =
Wilson's=20
public protestations otherwise.<BR>| <BR>| I hope and pray this=20
community will continue to wake up and smell Wilson's<BR>| =
coffee . . .=20
and understand *why* it's necessary to speak out against =
such<BR>|=20
wickedness. He has a very clearly stated agenda that I =
believe is=20
abhorrent<BR>| to our community and flatly antithetical to what =
makes=20
our community Moscow.<BR>| <BR>| But, please, Please, PLEASE =
*don't*=20
take my word for it! Go straight to the<BR>| horse's mouth =
and=20
read Wilson's own published words. Compare and =
contrast<BR>| what=20
he says when he's talking to others who share his beliefs with =
what=20
he<BR>| says when he's addressing those who don't share his =
particular=20
flavor of<BR>| Christianity. As a community, I hope we =
will=20
continue to use our collective<BR>| critical thinking skills to =
keep the=20
wool from being pulled over our eyes.<BR>| <BR>| So, please =
remind me=20
again: who is it that's supposed to be intolerant???<BR>| =
<BR>|=20
<BR>| Saundra Lund<BR>| Proud Intoleristas<BR>| Moscow, ID<BR>| =
<BR>|=20
-----Original Message-----<BR>| From: </FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com"><FONT=20
size=3D4>vision2020-admin@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT size=3D4>=20
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com] On<BR>| Behalf Of Art Deco =
aka W.=20
Fox<BR>| Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 1:10 PM<BR>| To: Vision =
2020<BR>|=20
Subject: [Vision2020] Cult Master: Women should not be able to =
choose=20
to<BR>| defend their country<BR>| <BR>| <BR>| Normal Folks,<BR>| =
<BR>|=20
The following is a dido (perhaps, some might uncivilly say =
"dildo"[you=20
can<BR>| infer his target]) from Christ Church Cult Master =
Douglas=20
Wilson's<BR>| self-sucking weblog (webblot?) </FONT><A=20
href=3D"http://www.dougwils.com"><FONT=20
size=3D4>www.dougwils.com</FONT></A><FONT size=3D4>. <BR>| <BR>| =
Not only=20
should women be disallowed from being on the board of his =
two-bit<BR>|=20
cult school, Bogus School, (despite the fact at the time of his=20
initial<BR>| suggestion, both the President and Prime Minister =
of=20
Finland were women),<BR>| but apparently women should not be =
given the=20
freedom to choose how they wish<BR>| to serve their =
country!<BR>| <BR>|=20
It also appears that it is more important to the Cult Master =
that he win=20
his<BR>| private "cultural conflict" (anti-egalitarism) than it =
is for=20
the U.S. to<BR>| bring the conflict in Iraq to a satisfactory =
conclusion=20
(assuming one is<BR>| possible).<BR>| <BR>| Can you say =
"pathological=20
egomaniacal megalomania" or the less polite<BR>| =
equivalent?<BR>| <BR>|=20
Wayne<BR>| <BR>| Art Deco (Wayne Fox)<BR>| </FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com"><FONT=20
size=3D4>deco@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT size=3D4>| <BR>|=20
__________________________________________________<BR>| <FONT=20
face=3DGaramond size=3D3>Absent Without Leave<BR>| Topic: =
Current=20
Events<BR>| <BR>| As the war in Iraq grinds on, multiple lessons =
can be=20
gleaned from it. And<BR>| not all the lessons have anything to =
do with=20
the tactical details of this<BR>| particular war.<BR>| <BR>| One =
of the=20
most strking things about this conflict is that when I see<BR>| =
talking=20
heads on the teevee talking about it, whether they support or=20
oppose<BR>| the war, whether they are conservative or liberal, =
they=20
always manage to get<BR>| in something about how they of course =
support=20
"our brave men and women" in<BR>| uniform. And there, with those =
two=20
words -- "and women" -- we have a<BR>| showcase example of how =
our=20
domestic kennel-fed conservative leaders do not<BR>| have any =
earthly=20
idea of what kind of cultural conflict we are in.<BR>| =
Apparently=20
victory in Iraq is important enough that we should purchase =
it<BR>|=20
through fundamental defeats here at home.<BR>| <BR>| When young =
girls=20
are killed or maimed in combat, where are the leading<BR>| =
conservative=20
spokesmen who take the opportunity to raise the point and =
press<BR>| it?=20
Why does no one point out that the abomination is, you know,=20
abominable?<BR>| Of course, they don't do it then out of =
consideration=20
for the grieving<BR>| families. And they don't do it later =
because there=20
is no reason to when the<BR>| heat is off. For all the =
saber-rattling=20
conservatives can do when it comes<BR>| to fighting backward =
nations=20
with high-tech weaponry, when it comes to an<BR>| issue that =
might=20
require actual courage from them, they are to use a<BR>| =
military term,=20
AWOL.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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