[Vision2020] Fw: Private [Says who]
Art Deco aka W. Fox
deco@moscow.com
Tue, 2 Mar 2004 13:52:08 -0800
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Private uninformative, insulting emails from Vision 2020 queries readings
will always be posted -- cowardice to deal in the marketplace of ideas is
not a pretty site.
I think that we can conclude that Doug Jones lied about the public meeting
on the casino.
It is also appears that Logos is ashamed or embarrassed about the contents
of the course "Biblical Femininity"
If the below is an example of what to expect from the cult in response to a
simple request for facts, it appears that Rose's castrating wit has claimed
more victims then first thought.
Wayne Fox
----- Original Message -----
From: "Doug Jones" <credenda@moscow.com>
To: "'Art Deco aka W. Fox'" <deco@moscow.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:37 AM
Subject: Private
> Wayne,
>
> Can you remind me again, Wayne, why I should take time to care what you
> think? I'm quite happy to let you believe a whole hill of lies; it's fun
> to watch and an affordable loss. Don't listen to anything cultists like
> me say, Wayne; we'll only lead you astray.
>
> I responded to Saundra privately.
>
> Are you leading the good life yet, Wayne? If I saw you on the street
> would I think "there goes a person who loves life?" Do you do anything
> creative?
>
> Doug Jones
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]
> On
> > Behalf Of Art Deco aka W. Fox
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 12:58 PM
> > To: vision2020@moscow.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] dougsplotch.net
> >
> > Doug Jones, et al,
> >
> > I know that I am slow-witted and semi-senile. However, I don't
> remember
> > your posting an answer to Saundra Lund's questions below.
> >
> > Even worse, I don't remember the public meeting on the Casino issue at
> all.
> > Neither does the LMT. A search of their archives under many different
> > keywords returns no article mentioning a public meeting on this issue.
> Of
> > course, all my friends are slow-witted wastrels also, but none of them
> can
> > remember such a meeting either.
> >
> > Perhaps, you would be so kind to jog our rotting memories with the
> date of
> > and the general comments made at such meeting.
> >
> > Perhaps, you would also be so gracious so as to respond to the V 2020
> query
> > yesterday about the "Biblical Femininity" course taught at Logos
> School.
> > There's nothing too graphic or esoteric about it to be ashamed of is
> there?
> >
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Wayne Fox
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund@adelphia.net>
> > To: "'Doug Jones'" <credenda@moscow.com>; "'Vision 20/20'"
> > <vision2020@moscow.com>
> > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:46 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] dougsplotch.net
> >
> >
> > > Doug Jones wrote:
> > > "Now I'm taking my winnings and heading for a night out at the Red
> Door."
> > >
> > > Hopefully, this will catch you before you head out. I asked the
> following
> > > questions yesterday in response to your post and am still awaiting
> > answers:
> > >
> > > Doug Jones wrote:
> > > "We openly explained our decision in a public meeting almost a year
> ago .
> > .
> > > . "
> > >
> > > Well, that's a public meeting I somehow unfortunately missed. Can
> you
> > > provide more information about this public meeting? When & where
> was it
> > > held and how was it publicized? Did any news reporters attend? I
> don't
> > > recall reading/seeing any coverage of the meeting, which I find
> somewhat
> > > surprising given the subject matter and number of press at the more
> recent
> > > so-called "Town Hall meeting". I was out-of-state a fair amount in
> 2003,
> > > but I read the newspapers after each trip and just don't recall
> reading
> > > anything about this, so I'd appreciate more information about Christ
> > > Church's actions regarding this horrendous organized wickedness.
> > >
> > > Doug Jones also wrote:
> > > ". . . and we posted that explanation for months."
> > >
> > > Yes, I notice Christ Church's explanation of the illegal activities
> and
> > the
> > > Church's active role in the aftermath are now gone, which really is
> too
> > bad
> > > for those of us interested in truth. After looking at
> > www.dougsplotch.net,
> > > I wanted to compare/contrast the info there to what I'd read on the
> Christ
> > > Church site, but the links for those specific "Bizarre Charges"
> ("Theft,
> > > Tyranny, Cover-up, Violence, and Other "Irremediable Wickedness
> Against
> > the
> > > Lord Jesus Christ.") seem to be broken. I thought perhaps the
> Christ
> > Church
> > > web site was having difficulties (perhaps because so many of the
> minions
> > > have been busy with their Hate Splotch), but am I correctly
> understanding
> > > now that Christ Church's official explanation has now been
> permanently
> > > removed? If so, what a pity.
> > >
> > > Doug Jones further wrote:
> > > "One pastor who was part of a denominational group reviewing our
> handling
> > of
> > > this situation said it was a brilliant solution."
> > >
> > > And, what denominational group was that? Surely you're not
> referencing
> > > Wilson's CRE (Confederation of Reformed Evangelicals)? If so, then
> isn't
> > > saying "One pastor who was part of a denominational group reviewing
> our
> > > handling of this situation said it was a brilliant solution," akin
> to
> > having
> > > the fox watch the hen house??? If not, why not?
> > >
> > > Saundra Lund
> > > Moscow, ID
> > >
> > > The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people
> to do
> > > nothing.
> > > -Edmund Burke
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com
> [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]
> > On
> > > Behalf Of Doug Jones
> > > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 10:35 AM
> > > To: 'Vision 20/20'
> > > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] dougsplotch.net
> > >
> > >
> > > Some anonymous person writing about shame and integrity wrote:
> > >
> > > > A kirker in good standing recently told me, "Doug Jones is going
> > > straight to
> > > > hell." He went on to describe Jones as the "Wormtongue" of Christ
> > > Church.
> > > > This kirker is not alone. A local pastor calls Doug Jones the
> Joseph
> > > > Goebbels of Christ Church
> > >
> > > Woohoo! I won! I won! Hell, Wormtongue AND Goebbels! I finally won
> the
> > > office pool! It's taken a long time, but I'm glad to be on top. Now
> I'm
> > > taking my winnings and heading for a night out at the Red Door.
> > >
> > > Doug Jones
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _____________________________________________________
> > > List services made available by First Step Internet,
> > > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
> > > http://www.fsr.net
> > > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com
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> > >
> > >
> >
> > _____________________________________________________
> > List services made available by First Step Internet,
> > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
> > http://www.fsr.net
> > mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com
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<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Private <STRONG>uninformative,=20
insulting</STRONG> emails from Vision 2020 queries readings will =
always be=20
posted -- cowardice to deal in the marketplace of ideas is not a pretty=20
site.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>I think that we can conclude that Doug Jones =
lied about=20
the public meeting on the casino.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>It is also appears that Logos is ashamed or =
embarrassed=20
about the contents of the course "Biblical Femininity"</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>If the below is an example of what to expect =
from the=20
cult in response to a simple request for facts, it appears that Rose's=20
castrating wit has claimed more victims then first thought.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Wayne Fox</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>From: "Doug Jones" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:credenda@moscow.com"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana>credenda@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT =
face=3DVerdana>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>To: "'Art Deco aka W. Fox'" <</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com"><FONT =
face=3DVerdana>deco@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana>></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:37 =
AM</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Subject: Private</FONT></DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>> =
Wayne,<BR>>=20
<BR>> Can you remind me again, Wayne, why I should take time to care =
what=20
you<BR>> think? I'm quite happy to let you believe a whole hill of =
lies; it's=20
fun<BR>> to watch and an affordable loss. Don't listen to anything =
cultists=20
like<BR>> me say, Wayne; we'll only lead you astray. <BR>> =
<BR>> I=20
responded to Saundra privately. <BR>> <BR>> Are you leading the =
good life=20
yet, Wayne? If I saw you on the street<BR>> would I think "there goes =
a=20
person who loves life?" Do you do anything<BR>> creative? =
<BR>>=20
<BR>> Doug Jones<BR>> <BR>> <BR>> <BR>> > =
-----Original=20
Message-----<BR>> > From: </FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana>vision2020-admin@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT =
face=3DVerdana>=20
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]<BR>> On<BR>> > Behalf Of =
Art Deco=20
aka W. Fox<BR>> > Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 12:58 PM<BR>> =
> To:=20
</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT =
face=3DVerdana>> >=20
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] dougsplotch.net<BR>> > <BR>> > =
Doug Jones,=20
et al,<BR>> > <BR>> > I know that I am slow-witted and=20
semi-senile. However, I don't<BR>> remember<BR>> > your =
posting=20
an answer to Saundra Lund's questions below.<BR>> > <BR>> > =
Even=20
worse, I don't remember the public meeting on the Casino issue =
at<BR>>=20
all.<BR>> > Neither does the LMT. A search of their archives =
under=20
many different<BR>> > keywords returns no article mentioning a =
public=20
meeting on this issue.<BR>> Of<BR>> > course, all my friends =
are=20
slow-witted wastrels also, but none of them<BR>> can<BR>> > =
remember=20
such a meeting either.<BR>> > <BR>> > Perhaps, you would be =
so kind=20
to jog our rotting memories with the<BR>> date of<BR>> > and =
the=20
general comments made at such meeting.<BR>> > <BR>> > =
Perhaps, you=20
would also be so gracious so as to respond to the V 2020<BR>> =
query<BR>>=20
> yesterday about the "Biblical Femininity" course taught at =
Logos<BR>>=20
School.<BR>> > There's nothing too graphic or esoteric about it to =
be=20
ashamed of is<BR>> there?<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > =
Thank=20
you.<BR>> > <BR>> > Wayne Fox<BR>> > <BR>> > =
<BR>>=20
> ----- Original Message -----<BR>> > From: "Saundra Lund"=20
<</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:sslund@adelphia.net"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana>sslund@adelphia.net</FONT></A><FONT =
face=3DVerdana>><BR>> >=20
To: "'Doug Jones'" <</FONT><A =
href=3D"mailto:credenda@moscow.com"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana>credenda@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT face=3DVerdana>>; =
"'Vision=20
20/20'"<BR>> > <</FONT><A =
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT =
face=3DVerdana>><BR>>=20
> Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:46 PM<BR>> > Subject: RE:=20
[Vision2020] dougsplotch.net<BR>> > <BR>> > <BR>> > =
> Doug=20
Jones wrote:<BR>> > > "Now I'm taking my winnings and heading =
for a=20
night out at the Red<BR>> Door."<BR>> > ><BR>> > >=20
Hopefully, this will catch you before you head out. I asked =
the<BR>>=20
following<BR>> > > questions yesterday in response to your post =
and am=20
still awaiting<BR>> > answers:<BR>> > ><BR>> > > =
Doug=20
Jones wrote:<BR>> > > "We openly explained our decision in a =
public=20
meeting almost a year<BR>> ago .<BR>> > .<BR>> > > . =
"<BR>>=20
> ><BR>> > > Well, that's a public meeting I somehow=20
unfortunately missed. Can<BR>> you<BR>> > > provide =
more=20
information about this public meeting? When & where<BR>> =
was=20
it<BR>> > > held and how was it publicized? Did any news=20
reporters attend? I<BR>> don't<BR>> > > recall =
reading/seeing=20
any coverage of the meeting, which I find<BR>> somewhat<BR>> > =
>=20
surprising given the subject matter and number of press at the =
more<BR>>=20
recent<BR>> > > so-called "Town Hall meeting". I was =
out-of-state=20
a fair amount in<BR>> 2003,<BR>> > > but I read the =
newspapers after=20
each trip and just don't recall<BR>> reading<BR>> > > =
anything about=20
this, so I'd appreciate more information about Christ<BR>> > > =
Church's=20
actions regarding this horrendous organized wickedness.<BR>> >=20
><BR>> > > Doug Jones also wrote:<BR>> > > ". . . =
and we=20
posted that explanation for months."<BR>> > ><BR>> > > =
Yes, I=20
notice Christ Church's explanation of the illegal activities<BR>> =
and<BR>>=20
> the<BR>> > > Church's active role in the aftermath are now =
gone,=20
which really is<BR>> too<BR>> > bad<BR>> > > for those =
of us=20
interested in truth. After looking at<BR>> > </FONT><A=20
href=3D"http://www.dougsplotch.net"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana>www.dougsplotch.net</FONT></A><FONT =
face=3DVerdana>,<BR>> >=20
> I wanted to compare/contrast the info there to what I'd read on =
the<BR>>=20
Christ<BR>> > > Church site, but the links for those specific =
"Bizarre=20
Charges"<BR>> ("Theft,<BR>> > > Tyranny, Cover-up, Violence, =
and=20
Other "Irremediable Wickedness<BR>> Against<BR>> > the<BR>> =
>=20
> Lord Jesus Christ.") seem to be broken. I thought perhaps =
the<BR>>=20
Christ<BR>> > Church<BR>> > > web site was having =
difficulties=20
(perhaps because so many of the<BR>> minions<BR>> > > have =
been busy=20
with their Hate Splotch), but am I correctly<BR>> =
understanding<BR>> >=20
> now that Christ Church's official explanation has now been<BR>>=20
permanently<BR>> > > removed? If so, what a pity.<BR>> =
>=20
><BR>> > > Doug Jones further wrote:<BR>> > > "One =
pastor=20
who was part of a denominational group reviewing our<BR>> =
handling<BR>>=20
> of<BR>> > > this situation said it was a brilliant=20
solution."<BR>> > ><BR>> > > And, what denominational =
group=20
was that? Surely you're not<BR>> referencing<BR>> > > =
Wilson's=20
CRE (Confederation of Reformed Evangelicals)? If so, then<BR>>=20
isn't<BR>> > > saying "One pastor who was part of a =
denominational=20
group reviewing<BR>> our<BR>> > > handling of this situation =
said it=20
was a brilliant solution," akin<BR>> to<BR>> > having<BR>> =
> >=20
the fox watch the hen house??? If not, why not?<BR>> > =
><BR>>=20
> > Saundra Lund<BR>> > > Moscow, ID<BR>> > =
><BR>>=20
> > The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good=20
people<BR>> to do<BR>> > > nothing.<BR>> > > =
-Edmund=20
Burke<BR>> > ><BR>> > > -----Original =
Message-----<BR>>=20
> > From: </FONT><A =
href=3D"mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana>vision2020-admin@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT =
face=3DVerdana>>=20
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]<BR>> > On<BR>> > > =
Behalf Of=20
Doug Jones<BR>> > > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 10:35 =
AM<BR>>=20
> > To: 'Vision 20/20'<BR>> > > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] =
dougsplotch.net<BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > > =
Some=20
anonymous person writing about shame and integrity wrote:<BR>> >=20
><BR>> > > > A kirker in good standing recently told me, =
"Doug=20
Jones is going<BR>> > > straight to<BR>> > > > =
hell." He=20
went on to describe Jones as the "Wormtongue" of Christ<BR>> > =
>=20
Church.<BR>> > > > This kirker is not alone. A local pastor =
calls=20
Doug Jones the<BR>> Joseph<BR>> > > > Goebbels of Christ=20
Church<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Woohoo! I won! I won! Hell,=20
Wormtongue AND Goebbels! I finally won<BR>> the<BR>> > =
>=20
office pool! It's taken a long time, but I'm glad to be on top.=20
Now<BR>> I'm<BR>> > > taking my winnings and heading for a =
night out=20
at the Red Door.<BR>> > ><BR>> > > Doug Jones<BR>> =
>=20
><BR>> > ><BR>> > ><BR>> > >=20
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> =20
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> =20
serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.<BR>> >=20
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sp; =20
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face=3DVerdana>http://www.fsr.net</FONT></A><BR><FONT =
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> =
</FONT><A=20
href=3D"mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana>mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT =
face=3DVerdana>>=20
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face=3DVerdana>>=20
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href=3D"mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana>mailto:Vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT =
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