[Vision2020] Fw: Private [Says who]

keely emerinemix kjajmix1@msn.com
Tue, 2 Mar 2004 22:10:50 -0800


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Lest Mr. Jones think that I'm picking on him, let me be quick to correct =
him.  "Picking on" would imply that I have an unreasonable, malicious =
basis for offering the rebuke I am about to deliver -- as if, perhaps, =
he were the new kid on the playground, the clumsy stock boy at work, or =
the dullard holding up the line at Safeway.  No, I'm afraid that I =
respond to Mr. Jones the way one responds to a spiteful, sullen, and =
snotty teenager or a callous, clueless, craven neighbor, both of whose =
behavior, come to think of it, describes his remarkably well.

The prerogative of a sister in Christ is to tell her brother -- and she =
is being hopeful and generous in her assessment here -- that he is =
behaving badly, and that his continued breeziness in dragging the name =
of Christ through the mud is not only causing immense harm to the Gospel =
and the Church on the Palouse, but has eternal consequences that all of =
the art, poetry, stout beer and classic literature in the world won't =
remedy.  Concern for his wellbeing, the wellbeing of those he dismisses =
so readily, and for the testimony of Christ compels me, then, to suggest =
to Mr. Jones that while acting like a bully might fulfill, if not =
utterly exhaust, his creative yearnings, it has a terrible effect on =
one's spiritual life as well, as evidenced in his response to Wayne Fox, =
below.

Mr. Jones says he's "quite happy" to have Wayne believe a whole hill of =
lies.  It appears that Wayne believes that certain Christ Church/NSA =
young men and Christ Church staff were caught up in questionable =
behavior a couple of years ago regarding the infamous casino.  Fair =
enough; it seems a reasonable conclusion given the evidence we have, and =
Doug Wilson's apparent refusal to respond to Bill London's simple =
questions regarding the situation doesn't help.  But I wonder if Mr. =
Jones' glee over Wayne's casino beliefs extends also to Wayne's entire =
belief system.  Wayne has been nothing but gracious to me, and if the =
ethic guiding his life is also "a whole hill of lies," then I am =
grieved; I don't consider it "fun to watch," and I don't consider any =
part of any wrong belief to be "an affordable loss."  Wonder why that =
is?  And I wonder if I'm just hormonal, immature, or sickeningly =
sentimental for caring what Wayne thinks of me -- for allowing myself to =
be disliked because he perhaps disagrees with MY worldview, but at the =
same condemning myself if he dislikes me for being rude, unloving, =
haughty, or spiteful.  And I can't help but wonder if my judging, or =
not, that Wayne is "a person who loves life" matters one tiny bit at =
all.  If Wayne Fox is to be condemned by his creator, I would submit =
that it won't be on the basis of how creative he is or how evident his =
zingy, robust love for life is.  The erudite Doug Jones should not need =
a homemaker with no theological training to remind him of that, but she =
offers it nonetheless.

It's simple.  Doug Jones is behaving in a most unChristian manner, and =
as a Christian I am beyond heartsick about it.  The Scriptures say it =
best, perhaps:  "Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who =
asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have, but do this with =
GENTLENESS and RESPECT, keeping a clear conscience so that those who =
speak maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of =
their slander." (1 Peter 3:15-16)

"Good behavior in Christ."  Now THAT, we'd all like to see.

Respectfully,

Keely Emerine Mix



  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Art Deco aka W. Fox=20
  To: vision2020@moscow.com=20
  Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 1:52 PM
  Subject: [Vision2020] Fw: Private [Says who]


  Private uninformative, insulting emails from Vision 2020 queries =
readings will always be posted -- cowardice to deal in the marketplace =
of ideas is not a pretty site.

  I think that we can conclude that Doug Jones lied about the public =
meeting on the casino.

  It is also appears that Logos is ashamed or embarrassed about the =
contents of the course "Biblical Femininity"

  If the below is an example of what to expect from the cult in response =
to a simple request for facts, it appears that Rose's castrating wit has =
claimed more victims then first thought.

  Wayne Fox


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: "Doug Jones" <credenda@moscow.com>
  To: "'Art Deco aka W. Fox'" <deco@moscow.com>
  Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:37 AM
  Subject: Private


  > Wayne,
  >=20
  > Can you remind me again, Wayne, why I should take time to care what =
you
  > think? I'm quite happy to let you believe a whole hill of lies; it's =
fun
  > to watch and an affordable loss. Don't listen to anything cultists =
like
  > me say, Wayne; we'll only lead you astray.=20
  >=20
  > I responded to Saundra privately.=20
  >=20
  > Are you leading the good life yet, Wayne? If I saw you on the street
  > would I think "there goes a person who loves life?" Do you do =
anything
  > creative? =20
  >=20
  > Doug Jones
  >=20
  >=20
  >=20
  > > -----Original Message-----
  > > From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com =
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]
  > On
  > > Behalf Of Art Deco aka W. Fox
  > > Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 12:58 PM
  > > To: vision2020@moscow.com
  > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] dougsplotch.net
  > >=20
  > > Doug Jones, et al,
  > >=20
  > > I know that I am slow-witted and semi-senile.  However, I don't
  > remember
  > > your posting an answer to Saundra Lund's questions below.
  > >=20
  > > Even worse, I don't remember the public meeting on the Casino =
issue at
  > all.
  > > Neither does the LMT.  A search of their archives under many =
different
  > > keywords returns no article mentioning a public meeting on this =
issue.
  > Of
  > > course, all my friends are slow-witted wastrels also, but none of =
them
  > can
  > > remember such a meeting either.
  > >=20
  > > Perhaps, you would be so kind to jog our rotting memories with the
  > date of
  > > and the general comments made at such meeting.
  > >=20
  > > Perhaps, you would also be so gracious so as to respond to the V =
2020
  > query
  > > yesterday about the "Biblical Femininity" course taught at Logos
  > School.
  > > There's nothing too graphic or esoteric about it to be ashamed of =
is
  > there?
  > >=20
  > >=20
  > > Thank you.
  > >=20
  > > Wayne Fox
  > >=20
  > >=20
  > > ----- Original Message -----
  > > From: "Saundra Lund" <sslund@adelphia.net>
  > > To: "'Doug Jones'" <credenda@moscow.com>; "'Vision 20/20'"
  > > <vision2020@moscow.com>
  > > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:46 PM
  > > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] dougsplotch.net
  > >=20
  > >=20
  > > > Doug Jones wrote:
  > > > "Now I'm taking my winnings and heading for a night out at the =
Red
  > Door."
  > > >
  > > > Hopefully, this will catch you before you head out.  I asked the
  > following
  > > > questions yesterday in response to your post and am still =
awaiting
  > > answers:
  > > >
  > > > Doug Jones wrote:
  > > > "We openly explained our decision in a public meeting almost a =
year
  > ago .
  > > .
  > > > . "
  > > >
  > > > Well, that's a public meeting I somehow unfortunately missed.  =
Can
  > you
  > > > provide more information about this public meeting?  When & =
where
  > was it
  > > > held and how was it publicized?  Did any news reporters attend?  =
I
  > don't
  > > > recall reading/seeing any coverage of the meeting, which I find
  > somewhat
  > > > surprising given the subject matter and number of press at the =
more
  > recent
  > > > so-called "Town Hall meeting".  I was out-of-state a fair amount =
in
  > 2003,
  > > > but I read the newspapers after each trip and just don't recall
  > reading
  > > > anything about this, so I'd appreciate more information about =
Christ
  > > > Church's actions regarding this horrendous organized wickedness.
  > > >
  > > > Doug Jones also wrote:
  > > > ". . . and we posted that explanation for months."
  > > >
  > > > Yes, I notice Christ Church's explanation of the illegal =
activities
  > and
  > > the
  > > > Church's active role in the aftermath are now gone, which really =
is
  > too
  > > bad
  > > > for those of us interested in truth.  After looking at
  > > www.dougsplotch.net,
  > > > I wanted to compare/contrast the info there to what I'd read on =
the
  > Christ
  > > > Church site, but the links for those specific "Bizarre Charges"
  > ("Theft,
  > > > Tyranny, Cover-up, Violence, and Other "Irremediable Wickedness
  > Against
  > > the
  > > > Lord Jesus Christ.") seem to be broken.  I thought perhaps the
  > Christ
  > > Church
  > > > web site was having difficulties (perhaps because so many of the
  > minions
  > > > have been busy with their Hate Splotch), but am I correctly
  > understanding
  > > > now that Christ Church's official explanation has now been
  > permanently
  > > > removed?  If so, what a pity.
  > > >
  > > > Doug Jones further wrote:
  > > > "One pastor who was part of a denominational group reviewing our
  > handling
  > > of
  > > > this situation said it was a brilliant solution."
  > > >
  > > > And, what denominational group was that?  Surely you're not
  > referencing
  > > > Wilson's CRE (Confederation of Reformed Evangelicals)?  If so, =
then
  > isn't
  > > > saying "One pastor who was part of a denominational group =
reviewing
  > our
  > > > handling of this situation said it was a brilliant solution," =
akin
  > to
  > > having
  > > > the fox watch the hen house???  If not, why not?
  > > >
  > > > Saundra Lund
  > > > Moscow, ID
  > > >
  > > > The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good =
people
  > to do
  > > > nothing.
  > > > -Edmund Burke
  > > >
  > > > -----Original Message-----
  > > > From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com
  > [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]
  > > On
  > > > Behalf Of Doug Jones
  > > > Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 10:35 AM
  > > > To: 'Vision 20/20'
  > > > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] dougsplotch.net
  > > >
  > > >
  > > > Some anonymous person writing about shame and integrity wrote:
  > > >
  > > > > A kirker in good standing recently told me, "Doug Jones is =
going
  > > > straight to
  > > > > hell." He went on to describe Jones as the "Wormtongue" of =
Christ
  > > > Church.
  > > > > This kirker is not alone. A local pastor calls Doug Jones the
  > Joseph
  > > > > Goebbels of Christ Church
  > > >
  > > > Woohoo! I won! I won! Hell, Wormtongue AND Goebbels!  I finally =
won
  > the
  > > > office pool!  It's taken a long time, but I'm glad to be on top. =
Now
  > I'm
  > > > taking my winnings and heading for a night out at the Red Door.
  > > >
  > > > Doug Jones
  > > >
  > > >
  > > >
  > > > _____________________________________________________
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  > > >  serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
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<DIV>
<DIV>Lest Mr. Jones think that I'm picking on him, let me be quick to =
correct=20
him.&nbsp; "Picking on" would imply that I have an unreasonable, =
malicious basis=20
for offering the rebuke&nbsp;I am about to deliver -- as if, =
perhaps,&nbsp;he=20
were the new kid on the playground, the clumsy stock boy at work, or the =
dullard=20
holding up the line at Safeway.&nbsp; No, I'm afraid that I respond to =
Mr. Jones=20
the way one responds to a spiteful, sullen, and snotty teenager or a =
callous,=20
clueless, craven neighbor, both of whose behavior, come to think of it,=20
describes his remarkably well.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The&nbsp;prerogative of a sister in Christ is to tell her brother =
-- and=20
she is being hopeful and generous in her assessment here&nbsp;-- that he =
is=20
behaving badly, and that his continued breeziness in dragging the name =
of Christ=20
through the mud is not only causing immense harm to the Gospel and the =
Church on=20
the Palouse, but has eternal consequences that all of the art, poetry, =
stout=20
beer and classic literature in the world won't remedy.&nbsp; Concern for =
his=20
wellbeing, the wellbeing of those he dismisses so readily,&nbsp;and for =
the=20
testimony of Christ compels me, then, to suggest to Mr. Jones =
that&nbsp;while=20
acting like a bully&nbsp;might fulfill, if not utterly exhaust, his =
creative=20
yearnings,&nbsp;it has a terrible effect on one's spiritual life as =
well, as=20
evidenced in his response to Wayne Fox, below.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Mr. Jones says he's "quite happy" to have Wayne believe a whole =
hill of=20
lies.&nbsp; It appears&nbsp;that Wayne believes that certain Christ =
Church/NSA=20
young men and Christ Church staff were caught up in questionable =
behavior a=20
couple of years ago regarding the infamous casino.&nbsp; Fair enough; it =
seems a=20
reasonable conclusion given the evidence we have, and Doug Wilson's =
apparent=20
refusal to respond to Bill London's simple questions regarding the =
situation=20
doesn't help.&nbsp; But I wonder if Mr. Jones' glee over&nbsp;Wayne's =
casino=20
beliefs extends also to Wayne's entire belief system.&nbsp; Wayne has =
been=20
nothing but gracious to me, and if the ethic guiding his life is also "a =
whole=20
hill of lies," then I am grieved; I don't consider it "fun to watch," =
and I=20
don't consider any part of any wrong belief to be "an affordable=20
loss."&nbsp;&nbsp;Wonder why that is?&nbsp; And I wonder if I'm just =
hormonal,=20
immature, or sickeningly sentimental for caring what Wayne thinks of me =
-- for=20
allowing myself to be disliked because he perhaps disagrees with MY =
worldview,=20
but at the same condemning myself if he dislikes me for being rude, =
unloving,=20
haughty, or spiteful.&nbsp; And I can't help but wonder if my judging, =
or not,=20
that Wayne is "a person who loves life" matters one tiny bit at =
all.&nbsp; If=20
Wayne Fox is to be condemned by his creator, I would submit that it =
won't be on=20
the basis of how creative he is or how evident his zingy, robust love =
for life=20
is.&nbsp; The erudite Doug Jones should not need a homemaker with no =
theological=20
training to remind him of that, but she offers it nonetheless.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>It's simple.&nbsp; Doug Jones is behaving in a most unChristian =
manner, and=20
as a Christian I am beyond heartsick about it.&nbsp; The Scriptures say=20
it&nbsp;best, perhaps:&nbsp; "Always be prepared to give an answer to =
everyone=20
who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have, but do this =
with=20
GENTLENESS and RESPECT, keeping a clear conscience so that those who =
speak=20
maliciously against your good behavior in Christ may be ashamed of their =

slander." (1 Peter 3:15-16)<BR></DIV>
<DIV>"Good behavior in Christ."&nbsp; Now THAT, we'd all like to =
see.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Respectfully,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Keely Emerine Mix</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>From:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art Deco aka W. Fox</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 02, 2004 =
1:52=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] Fw: =
Private [Says=20
  who]</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Private <STRONG>uninformative,=20
  insulting</STRONG>&nbsp;emails from Vision 2020 queries readings will =
always=20
  be posted -- cowardice to deal in the marketplace of ideas is not a =
pretty=20
  site.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>I think that we can conclude that Doug Jones =
lied=20
  about the public meeting on the casino.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>It is also appears that Logos is ashamed or=20
  embarrassed about the contents of the course "Biblical=20
Femininity"</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>If the below is an example of what to expect =
from the=20
  cult in response to a simple request for facts, it appears that Rose's =

  castrating wit has claimed more victims then first =
thought.</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Wayne Fox</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>----- Original Message ----- </FONT>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>From: "Doug Jones" &lt;</FONT><A=20
  href=3D"mailto:credenda@moscow.com"><FONT=20
  face=3DVerdana>credenda@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT=20
face=3DVerdana>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>To: "'Art Deco aka W. Fox'" &lt;</FONT><A=20
  href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com"><FONT=20
  face=3DVerdana>deco@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT =
face=3DVerdana>&gt;</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:37 =
AM</FONT></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>Subject: Private</FONT></DIV></DIV>
  <DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana><BR></FONT></DIV><FONT face=3DVerdana>&gt;=20
  Wayne,<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Can you remind me again, Wayne, why I should =
take time=20
  to care what you<BR>&gt; think? I'm quite happy to let you believe a =
whole=20
  hill of lies; it's fun<BR>&gt; to watch and an affordable loss. Don't =
listen=20
  to anything cultists like<BR>&gt; me say, Wayne; we'll only lead you =
astray.=20
  <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; I responded to Saundra privately. <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; =
Are you=20
  leading the good life yet, Wayne? If I saw you on the street<BR>&gt; =
would I=20
  think "there goes a person who loves life?" Do you do anything<BR>&gt; =

  creative?&nbsp; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Doug Jones<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; =

  <BR>&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; &gt; From: </FONT><A=20
  href=3D"mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com"><FONT=20
  face=3DVerdana>vision2020-admin@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT =
face=3DVerdana>=20
  [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]<BR>&gt; On<BR>&gt; &gt; Behalf Of =
Art=20
  Deco aka W. Fox<BR>&gt; &gt; Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 12:58 =
PM<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; To: </FONT><A href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT=20
  face=3DVerdana>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT =
face=3DVerdana>&gt; &gt;=20
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] dougsplotch.net<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; =
Doug=20
  Jones, et al,<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; I know that I am slow-witted =
and=20
  semi-senile.&nbsp; However, I don't<BR>&gt; remember<BR>&gt; &gt; your =
posting=20
  an answer to Saundra Lund's questions below.<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; =
&gt; Even=20
  worse, I don't remember the public meeting on the Casino issue =
at<BR>&gt;=20
  all.<BR>&gt; &gt; Neither does the LMT.&nbsp; A search of their =
archives under=20
  many different<BR>&gt; &gt; keywords returns no article mentioning a =
public=20
  meeting on this issue.<BR>&gt; Of<BR>&gt; &gt; course, all my friends =
are=20
  slow-witted wastrels also, but none of them<BR>&gt; can<BR>&gt; &gt; =
remember=20
  such a meeting either.<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Perhaps, you would =
be so=20
  kind to jog our rotting memories with the<BR>&gt; date of<BR>&gt; &gt; =
and the=20
  general comments made at such meeting.<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; =
Perhaps, you=20
  would also be so gracious so as to respond to the V 2020<BR>&gt; =
query<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; yesterday about the "Biblical Femininity" course taught at =
Logos<BR>&gt;=20
  School.<BR>&gt; &gt; There's nothing too graphic or esoteric about it =
to be=20
  ashamed of is<BR>&gt; there?<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; =
Thank=20
  you.<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Wayne Fox<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; =
<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; ----- Original Message -----<BR>&gt; &gt; From: "Saundra Lund"=20
  &lt;</FONT><A href=3D"mailto:sslund@adelphia.net"><FONT=20
  face=3DVerdana>sslund@adelphia.net</FONT></A><FONT =
face=3DVerdana>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; To: "'Doug Jones'" &lt;</FONT><A =
href=3D"mailto:credenda@moscow.com"><FONT=20
  face=3DVerdana>credenda@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT =
face=3DVerdana>&gt;; "'Vision=20
  20/20'"<BR>&gt; &gt; &lt;</FONT><A =
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com"><FONT=20
  face=3DVerdana>vision2020@moscow.com</FONT></A><FONT =
face=3DVerdana>&gt;<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 2:46 PM<BR>&gt; &gt; Subject: RE: =

  [Vision2020] dougsplotch.net<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
  Doug Jones wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; "Now I'm taking my winnings and =
heading=20
  for a night out at the Red<BR>&gt; Door."<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt; &gt;=20
  Hopefully, this will catch you before you head out.&nbsp; I asked =
the<BR>&gt;=20
  following<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; questions yesterday in response to your =
post and=20
  am still awaiting<BR>&gt; &gt; answers:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
  Doug Jones wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; "We openly explained our decision =
in a=20
  public meeting almost a year<BR>&gt; ago .<BR>&gt; &gt; .<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt; .=20
  "<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Well, that's a public meeting I =
somehow=20
  unfortunately missed.&nbsp; Can<BR>&gt; you<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; provide =
more=20
  information about this public meeting?&nbsp; When &amp; where<BR>&gt; =
was=20
  it<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; held and how was it publicized?&nbsp; Did any =
news=20
  reporters attend?&nbsp; I<BR>&gt; don't<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; recall=20
  reading/seeing any coverage of the meeting, which I find<BR>&gt;=20
  somewhat<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; surprising given the subject matter and =
number of=20
  press at the more<BR>&gt; recent<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; so-called "Town =
Hall=20
  meeting".&nbsp; I was out-of-state a fair amount in<BR>&gt; =
2003,<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
  &gt; but I read the newspapers after each trip and just don't =
recall<BR>&gt;=20
  reading<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; anything about this, so I'd appreciate more=20
  information about Christ<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Church's actions regarding =
this=20
  horrendous organized wickedness.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
Doug=20
  Jones also wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; ". . . and we posted that =
explanation for=20
  months."<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Yes, I notice Christ =
Church's=20
  explanation of the illegal activities<BR>&gt; and<BR>&gt; &gt; =
the<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; &gt; Church's active role in the aftermath are now gone, which =
really=20
  is<BR>&gt; too<BR>&gt; &gt; bad<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; for those of us =
interested=20
  in truth.&nbsp; After looking at<BR>&gt; &gt; </FONT><A=20
  href=3D"http://www.dougsplotch.net"><FONT=20
  face=3DVerdana>www.dougsplotch.net</FONT></A><FONT =
face=3DVerdana>,<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
  &gt; I wanted to compare/contrast the info there to what I'd read on=20
  the<BR>&gt; Christ<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Church site, but the links for =
those=20
  specific "Bizarre Charges"<BR>&gt; ("Theft,<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Tyranny, =

  Cover-up, Violence, and Other "Irremediable Wickedness<BR>&gt; =
Against<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; the<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Lord Jesus Christ.") seem to be =
broken.&nbsp; I=20
  thought perhaps the<BR>&gt; Christ<BR>&gt; &gt; Church<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt; web=20
  site was having difficulties (perhaps because so many of the<BR>&gt;=20
  minions<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; have been busy with their Hate Splotch), but =
am I=20
  correctly<BR>&gt; understanding<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; now that Christ =
Church's=20
  official explanation has now been<BR>&gt; permanently<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
  removed?&nbsp; If so, what a pity.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
Doug=20
  Jones further wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; "One pastor who was part of a=20
  denominational group reviewing our<BR>&gt; handling<BR>&gt; &gt; =
of<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; &gt; this situation said it was a brilliant solution."<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; And, what denominational group was that?&nbsp; =
Surely=20
  you're not<BR>&gt; referencing<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Wilson's CRE =
(Confederation=20
  of Reformed Evangelicals)?&nbsp; If so, then<BR>&gt; isn't<BR>&gt; =
&gt; &gt;=20
  saying "One pastor who was part of a denominational group =
reviewing<BR>&gt;=20
  our<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; handling of this situation said it was a =
brilliant=20
  solution," akin<BR>&gt; to<BR>&gt; &gt; having<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; the =
fox watch=20
  the hen house???&nbsp; If not, why not?<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
  Saundra Lund<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Moscow, ID<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; =
&gt; &gt;=20
  The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good =
people<BR>&gt; to=20
  do<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; nothing.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; -Edmund Burke<BR>&gt; =
&gt;=20
  &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
From:=20
  </FONT><A href=3D"mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com"><FONT=20
  face=3DVerdana>vision2020-admin@moscow.com</FONT></A><BR><FONT =
face=3DVerdana>&gt;=20
  [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]<BR>&gt; &gt; On<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
Behalf=20
  Of Doug Jones<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Friday, February 27, 2004 10:35=20
  AM<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; To: 'Vision 20/20'<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: RE: =

  [Vision2020] dougsplotch.net<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
  &gt; Some anonymous person writing about shame and integrity =
wrote:<BR>&gt;=20
  &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; A kirker in good standing recently =
told me,=20
  "Doug Jones is going<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; straight to<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
  hell." He went on to describe Jones as the "Wormtongue" of =
Christ<BR>&gt; &gt;=20
  &gt; Church.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; This kirker is not alone. A local =
pastor=20
  calls Doug Jones the<BR>&gt; Joseph<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Goebbels of =
Christ=20
  Church<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Woohoo! I won! I won! Hell, =

  Wormtongue AND Goebbels!&nbsp; I finally won<BR>&gt; the<BR>&gt; &gt; =
&gt;=20
  office pool!&nbsp; It's taken a long time, but I'm glad to be on top.=20
  Now<BR>&gt; I'm<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; taking my winnings and heading for a =
night=20
  out at the Red Door.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Doug =
Jones<BR>&gt;=20
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