[Vision2020] UI Task Force Members Paid!!?

[Here We Go Again]

I agree, Saundra.

Do you realize that over 20% of the UI staff are paid at (and below) poverty 
level?  Add to that misery that many of these staff are sole parents (that 
means day care).

We must solve these budget problems and I mean SOON.  Many of these quality 
employees will (more than likely) jump ship once they cast their eyes on 
greener pastures elsewhere.

Tom "Thank God for my military retirement pension" Hansen
Just another Liberal Elitist loose in the Palouse

> Thanks, Mr. Force, for sharing the information with Vision 2020.
> 
> You wrote:
> "Remember, they're not realeased from their regular duties, unless trhey use 
the
> $7,500 for a buy-out."
> 
> Well, I don't mean to quibble, but I'm not sure that's completely accurate.  I
> know of at least two non-Task Force (already strapped) UI employees who have 
had
> their workloads increased (with no additional compensation) to "help out" with
> the regular duties of Task Force members (who are receiving additional 
financial
> compensation).
> 
> Mind you, if I worked at the UI, I don't think you could pay me enough to want
> to be on that particular Task Force!
> 
> However, I think being on the Task Force with its additional compensation is a
> nice little peach for that select group.  It SUCKS for the rest of the 
employees
> who have gone without raises for far too long, but . . . 
> 
> And, quite frankly, I think increasing the workload of those not on the Task
> Force to "help out" those on the Task Force stinks.  As a community, there's a
> sense that everyone should be pitching in to "get the job done" and support 
the
> Task Force's efforts, but I think it's bound to cause resentment that those
> already overworked souls not on the Task Force are having to pick up the
> inevitable slack from those who are being paid to be on the Task Force in
> addition to their regular pay.
> 
> I think it's also hard to foster a sense of a community and sell the idea that
> the UI financial difficulties are something all employees are in together as a
> team when a select group (I join others in being interested in the selection
> criteria) is getting a substantial financial perk for an issue *all* are 
trying
> to resolve.
> 
> But, perhaps that's part of the reason the financial compensation has been 
kept
> such a quiet little secret???
> 
> 
> Saundra Lund
> Moscow, ID
> 
> The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good people to do
> nothing.
> -Edmund Burke
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com] On
> Behalf Of Ron Force
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 3:48 PM
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] UI Task Force Members Paid!!?
> 
> I replied to Saundra directly.  It appears that others are interested, so
> here's the answer:
> 
> Each Task Force member gets a $7,500 honorarium.  If taken directly (as
> pay), it's subject to all the standard deductions, just like pay.  It can be
> put into a discretionary operating fund to support professional work (like
> travel to conferences, etc.); or, it can be used to buy released time from
> the department. Academic year employees also get one month of summer salary.
> 
> This is a one shot deal, no matter how long the TF runs. My guess is that
> they won't be done until December.  And, given the number of hours involved,
> they're getting about $ 8.00/hr. Remember, they're not realeased from their
> regular duties, unless trhey use the $7,500 for a buy-out.
> 
> **********************************************
> Ron Force          Moscow ID USA
> rforce at moscow.com
> (208) 885-6534
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-bounces at moscow.com
> [mailto:vision2020-bounces at moscow.com]On Behalf Of hayfields at moscow.com
> Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2004 8:25 AM
> To: vision2020 at moscow.com
> Subject: [Vision2020] UI Task Force Members Paid!!?
> 
> 
> Saundra
> I am very interested in this.  Certainly there has been no mention in the
> task
> force "releases" or anything on the web site that these might be paid
> positions. I suppose it would be possible, maybe necessary  to pay the
> classified staff for comp time, but I would be interested to know if anyone
> else is getting paid, and just exactly which budget that is coming from.  I
> know they spent 2 full days in meetings, but I would think that would have
> fallen under the "other duties as assigned" rather than getting to be
> counted
> as comp time.  I suppose you could pay the exempt personnel on the grounds
> that it is beyond the contract that they agreed too.  Certainly no mention
> was
> made when they were asking for nominations that there was a possibility that
> the positions might be paid.  Does anyone know what criteria was used to
> select the members to this committee? I know that they have taken a vow of
> silence and nothing comes out from any individual.   Just notices signed
> "the
> task force".
> If you get any responses to this question, I would sure like to hear it.
> Would
> you post it to Vision2020?
> 
> Thanks
> Heather
> Jordan
> 
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