[Vision2020] Public Defenders Office

[bubba jones]

Tom,
Keep your undies on.  You misunderstand me.  Of course I don't want the PD 
proving the state's case.  Simply stated, and I'll write slowly so I'm not 
misunderstood again, before the PD pleads a case he/she has to make sure 
that the state can prove their case.  Nothing more, nothing less.  The PD 
doesn't prove the state's case - he makes sure they can prove their case 
(translated defends his client).

Also, I think there is a twelve step program for L&O addiction.

Lastly, if you crawl into bed with the ABA to prove a point don't forget to 
take a really long shower (even then you probably couldn't wash off all the 
yuck).

B.Jones

>From: thansen@moscow.com
>To: "bubba jones" <bubbajones9763@hotmail.com>
>CC: DonaldH675@aol.com
>Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Public Defenders Office
>Date: Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:07:52 GMT
>
>Good Lord, Bubba.  What planet have you been living on?  Do you read the
>newspaper?  Do you watch the news?
>
>You stated:
>
>"The job of the PD is to make sure that, if his client did it, that the 
>state
>can prove it."
>
>I most certainly would NOT want to be represented by a PD whose job it is 
>to
>prove the state's case.
>
>Yes.  I have watched Law and Order.  Hell, I am an addict to L&O.  Do you 
>know
>how many times that L&O (and particularly Dick Wolf) has been recognized by 
>the
>American Bar Association, not to mention the New York Police Department for
>legal accuracy?  Check it out.
>
>I also watch Court TV and the Crier Report.
>
>Tom Hansen
>Not On The Palouse, Not Ever
>
>
> > Rose,
> > the PDs job IS to represent his client, true.  However, it's not his/her 
>job
> > to try and get people off
> > for a crime they committed.  The client knows whether he/she did it and 
>the
> > PD knows whether he/she did it.  The job of the PD is to make sure that, 
>if
> > his client did it, that the state can prove it.  If they can't prove it, 
>go
> > to trial.  If they can, cop to a lesser.  If the client knows he didn't 
>do
> > it then trial is the only option.
> >
> > I think part of the problem is that we've watched too much Law and 
>Order.
> >
> > B.
> >
> >
> > >From: DonaldH675@aol.com
> > >To: bubbajones9763@hotmail.com
> > >Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Public Defenders Office Date: Fri, 30 Jan 
>2004
> > >12:28:47 EST
> > >
> > >Dear Bubba Jones:
> > >
> > >Mr. Jones writes:
> > >
> > >"Correct me if I'm wrong, and I know you will, but I don't think it's 
>the
> > >job
> > >of the public defender to help set guilty people free."
> > >
> > >Actually, it is not the public defenders job to determine guilt or
> > >innocence,
> > >so your premise is faulty.  It is his/her job to represent the client.  
>I
> > >invite attorney's on this chat group to discuss how clients are best
> > >represented
> > >by plea deals.  I have no expertise in that matter.
> > >
> > >I am asking for outcome information.  This is not an outrageous request 
>-
> > >it
> > >is an information request supported by the American Bar Association.  
>For a
> > >more complete understanding of standards and expectations, prepared and
> > >vetted
> > >by professionals, I suggest Mr. Jones, that you read the following.
> > >
> > 
> >http://www.gidc.com/National%20Legal%20Aid%20&%20Defender%20Association%
>20Mode
> > >l%20Contract%20for%20Public%20Defense%20Services.htm
> > >
> > >It is my hope that that this material it will provide you with some 
>insight
> > >into why I feel that we are missing the mark here in Latah County.  I 
>would
> > >prefer that we seek to meet the highest standard in administering 
>justice
> > >in this
> > >county, and I am sure that if you were in the position of an indigent
> > >client,
> > >you would too.
> > >
> > >Best,
> > >Rose Huskey
> >
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