[Vision2020] Separate V2020 Lists?
JSullivan
jsullivan@moscow.com
Thu, 22 Jan 2004 12:35:26 -0800
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At this point in time, I would much prefer separate lists. I belong to a =
chat site, and something similar to this happened. Another place was =
created for the type of ad nasuem (SP?) posting back and forth like has =
been going on here. Many people who left have come back, the ones who =
want to beat a dead horse continually, can do so in their own place. =
They also have the room arraigned like the message board at the Moscow =
Food Co-op. When a person starts a thread, all comments stay under that =
heading. I don't mind deleting, but I have a TON to delete every =
morning, and get nervous I'll delete something of an important business =
nature.
Janesta Sullivan
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Art Deco=20
To: vision2020@moscow.com=20
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Separate V2020 Lists?
Tim,
If presentations are being given in two rooms and if one never enters =
the second room, that person may miss something of value.
In the case of Vision 2020, what topic people are discussing may be as =
important as know what events, etc. are happening in the community. =
Perhaps as a newsman you would find some value in this point of view.
Its not a big deal to me, but I prefer a single list. I have learned =
from both announcements and debate on Vision 2020 and suspect most list =
readers have also.
I am not sure, but don't the local ISPs provide a bulletin board for =
community announcements?
Thank you for your response. I guess this is one of those =
non-critical items where disagreement is, in the end, of little =
consequence.
Wayne Fox
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Tim Lohrmann=20
To: vision2020@moscow.com=20
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Separate V2020 Lists?
Wayne,
The separate lists idea was never about restricting anyone's =
freedom to discuss anything.
It was about the freedom to avoid the tiresome aspects of =
what has become, in effect, a non-stop spam list.=20
Is addressing the same "discussion" posts to a slightly =
different email address an excessive burden?
TL =20
Art Deco <deco@moscow.com> wrote:
Does using the Delete key take such an inordinate amount of time. =
Freedom to discuss any topic openly does have its burdens, but the =
effort to delete content in which one is not interested does not seem to =
be an excessive burden. From my point of view Vision 2020 functions =
fine, even though the D in my Delete key is showing some wear.
Wayne Fox
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Tim Lohrmann=20
To: vision2020@moscow.com=20
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 10:17 AM
Subject: [Vision2020] Separate V2020 Lists?
Visionaries, =20
A while back there was some discussion of having V2020 =
evolve into two separate lists--one for announcements, news etc. and the =
other for discusson on various issues.
Anyone still think that's a good idea?=20
It might be a welcome option to some of us who are =
presently deleting endless lines of mails usually from the same few =
post-ers concerning umm...."certain" topics that are at least to some of =
us seem to be going nowhere and are a waste of time.=20
Thoughts?
TL =20
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prefer separate=20
lists. I belong to a chat site, and something similar to this happened. =
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forth like has been going on here. Many people who left have come =
back, the=20
ones who want to beat a dead horse continually, can do so in their own =
place.=20
They also have the room arraigned like the message board at the Moscow =
Food=20
Co-op. When a person starts a thread, all comments stay under that =
heading. I=20
don't mind deleting, but I have a TON to delete every morning, and get =
nervous=20
I'll delete something of an important business nature.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Janesta Sullivan</FONT></DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Ddeco@moscow.com href=3D"mailto:deco@moscow.com">Art =
Deco</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 22, =
2004 11:55=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] =
Separate V2020=20
Lists?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>Tim,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>If presentations are being =
given in two=20
rooms and if one never enters the second room, that person may miss =
something=20
of value.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>In the case of Vision 2020, =
what topic=20
people are discussing may be as important as know what events, =
etc. are=20
happening in the community. Perhaps as a newsman you would find some =
value in=20
this point of view.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>Its not a big deal to me, =
but I prefer a=20
single list. I have learned from both announcements and debate =
on Vision=20
2020 and suspect most list readers have also.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>I am not sure, but don't the =
local ISPs=20
provide a bulletin board for community announcements?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>Thank you for your =
response. I=20
guess this is one of those non-critical items where disagreement is, =
in the=20
end, of little consequence.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>Wayne Fox</FONT></DIV>
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<A title=3Dtimlohr@yahoo.com href=3D"mailto:timlohr@yahoo.com">Tim =
Lohrmann</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 22, =
2004 11:28=20
AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] =
Separate=20
V2020 Lists?</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Wayne,</DIV>
<DIV> The separate lists=20
idea was never about restricting anyone's freedom to =
discuss=20
anything.</DIV>
<DIV> It was about the =
freedom to=20
avoid the tiresome aspects of what has become, in effect, a =
non-stop=20
spam list. </DIV>
<DIV> Is addressing the =
same=20
"discussion" posts to a slightly different email address an =
excessive=20
burden?</DIV>
<DIV> =
TL =20
<BR><BR><B><I>Art Deco <deco@moscow.com></I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>Does using the Delete =
key take such=20
an inordinate amount of time. Freedom to discuss any topic =
openly=20
does have its burdens, but the effort to delete content in which =
one is=20
not interested does not seem to be an excessive burden. From =
my=20
point of view Vision 2020 functions fine, even though the D in my =
Delete=20
key is showing some wear.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>Wayne Fox</FONT></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
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</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3Dtimlohr@yahoo.com =
href=3D"mailto:timlohr@yahoo.com">Tim=20
Lohrmann</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January =
22, 2004=20
10:17 AM</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] =
Separate=20
V2020 Lists?</DIV>
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<DIV> A while back there was =
some=20
discussion of having V2020 evolve into two separate lists--one =
for=20
announcements, news etc. and the other for discusson on various=20
issues.</DIV>
<DIV> Anyone still think =
that's a=20
good idea? </DIV>
<DIV> It might be =
a welcome=20
option to some of us who are presently =
deleting endless lines=20
of mails usually from the same few post-ers concerning=20
umm...."certain" topics that are at least to some of =
us seem to=20
be going nowhere and are a waste of time. </DIV>
<DIV> Thoughts?</DIV>
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