[Vision2020] Separate V2020 Lists?

Art Deco deco@moscow.com
Thu, 22 Jan 2004 11:55:54 -0800


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Tim,

If presentations are being given in two rooms and if one never enters =
the second room, that person may miss something of value.

In the case of Vision 2020, what topic people are discussing may be as =
important as know what events, etc. are happening in the community. =
Perhaps as a newsman you would find some value in this point of view.

Its not a big deal to me, but I prefer a single list.  I have learned =
from both announcements and debate on Vision 2020 and suspect most list =
readers have also.

I am not sure, but don't the local ISPs provide a bulletin board for =
community announcements?

Thank you for your response.  I guess this is one of those non-critical =
items where disagreement is, in the end, of little consequence.

Wayne Fox

  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Tim Lohrmann=20
  To: vision2020@moscow.com=20
  Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 11:28 AM
  Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Separate V2020 Lists?


  Wayne,
         The separate lists idea was never about restricting anyone's =
freedom to discuss anything.
         It was about the freedom to avoid the tiresome aspects of what =
has become, in effect, a non-stop spam list.=20
         Is addressing the same "discussion" posts to a slightly =
different email address an excessive burden?
         TL     =20

  Art Deco <deco@moscow.com> wrote:
    Does using the Delete key take such an inordinate amount of time.  =
Freedom to discuss any topic openly does have its burdens, but the =
effort to delete content in which one is not interested does not seem to =
be an excessive burden.  From my point of view Vision 2020 functions =
fine, even though the D in my Delete key is showing some wear.

    Wayne Fox

      ----- Original Message -----=20
      From: Tim Lohrmann=20
      To: vision2020@moscow.com=20
      Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2004 10:17 AM
      Subject: [Vision2020] Separate V2020 Lists?


      Visionaries,   =20
             A while back there was some discussion of having V2020 =
evolve into two separate lists--one for announcements, news etc. and the =
other for discusson on various issues.
             Anyone still think that's a good idea?=20
             It might be a welcome option to some of us who are =
presently deleting endless lines of mails usually from the same few =
post-ers concerning umm...."certain" topics that are at least to some of =
us seem to be going nowhere and are a waste of time.=20
             Thoughts?
               TL   =20








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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>Tim,</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>If presentations are being =
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>In the case of Vision 2020, =
what topic=20
people are discussing may be as important as know&nbsp;what events, etc. =
are=20
happening in the community. Perhaps as a newsman you would find some =
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this point of view.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>Its not a big deal to me, but =
I prefer a=20
single list.&nbsp; I have learned from both announcements and debate on =
Vision=20
2020 and suspect most list readers have also.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>I am not sure, but don't the =
local ISPs=20
provide a bulletin board for community announcements?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>Thank you for your =
response.&nbsp; I guess=20
this is one of those non-critical items where disagreement is, in the =
end, of=20
little consequence.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>Wayne Fox</FONT></DIV>
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  <A title=3Dtimlohr@yahoo.com href=3D"mailto:timlohr@yahoo.com">Tim =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 22, =
2004 11:28=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Vision2020] =
Separate V2020=20
  Lists?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Wayne,</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;The separate lists=20
  idea&nbsp;was never about&nbsp;restricting anyone's freedom to discuss =

  anything.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;It was about&nbsp;the =
freedom to=20
  avoid the tiresome aspects of what has become, in&nbsp;effect, a =
non-stop spam=20
  list.&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Is addressing the same=20
  "discussion" posts to a slightly different email address an excessive=20
  burden?</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
TL&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;=20
  <BR><BR><B><I>Art Deco &lt;deco@moscow.com&gt;</I></B> wrote:</DIV>
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    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>Does using the Delete key =
take such an=20
    inordinate amount of time.&nbsp; Freedom to discuss any topic openly =
does=20
    have its burdens, but the effort to delete content in which one is =
not=20
    interested does not seem to be an excessive burden.&nbsp; From my =
point of=20
    view Vision 2020 functions fine, even though the D in my Delete key =
is=20
    showing some wear.</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
    <DIV><FONT face=3D"Arial Narrow" size=3D2>Wayne Fox</FONT></DIV>
    <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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      <DIV=20
      style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
      <A title=3Dtimlohr@yahoo.com href=3D"mailto:timlohr@yahoo.com">Tim =

      Lohrmann</A> </DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com=20
      href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> =
</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 22, =
2004=20
      10:17 AM</DIV>
      <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] =
Separate V2020=20
      Lists?</DIV>
      <DIV><BR></DIV>
      <DIV>Visionaries,&nbsp;&nbsp; <A=20
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      <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; A while back there was =
some=20
      discussion of having V2020 evolve into two separate lists--one for =

      announcements, news etc. and the other for discusson on various=20
      issues.</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Anyone still think =
that's a good=20
      idea? </DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; It might be =
a&nbsp;welcome=20
      option to&nbsp;some of us who are presently deleting&nbsp;endless =
lines of=20
      mails usually from&nbsp;the same few post-ers concerning =
umm...."certain"=20
      topics that are at least to some of us&nbsp;seem to be&nbsp;going =
nowhere=20
      and are a waste of time. </DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thoughts?</DIV>
      <DIV>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; =
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