[Vision2020] DUIs [formerly highway]

Sunil Ramalingam sunilramalingam@hotmail.com
Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:56:48 -0800


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<P>Wayne,</P>
<P>You cannot currently disqualify a judge in any criminal case in Idaho.&nbsp; The rule that permitted DQs has been suspended.&nbsp;&nbsp; Therefore there is&nbsp;no link between a judge's fear of being DQ'd and the sentences they hand out.&nbsp; One may think the sentences are too lenient, but that's another discussion; they have nothing to do with fears of being DQ'd.</P>
<P>DUI cases are often difficult to prove; that's why so many get bargained.</P>
<P>Sunil<BR><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "Art Deco aka W. Fox" <DECO@MOSCOW.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: <VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: [Vision2020] highway 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 08:28:25 -0800 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Sunil, et al, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I think that Idaho DUI and similar laws and their enforcement are way too 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;lax. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I do not know about Latah County because the Daily News does not yet provide 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;us the public record information about citations and dispositions.&nbsp;&nbsp;But I 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;had at one time extensive knowledge about the three northern Idaho counties. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I think the sentencing is way too lax.&nbsp;&nbsp;Plea bargains down to inattentive 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;driving are far, far too common.&nbsp;&nbsp;With regard to DUIs PA's are slothful 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;simply lack the balls to get tough.&nbsp;&nbsp;Judges are so afraid of initial 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;disqualifications and the resulting assignment to non-local venues that DUI 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;sentencings are about the same as they were 30 years ago after adjustment 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;for inflation.&nbsp;&nbsp;Because of the disqualification rule, sentencing follows the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;LCD of the magistrate pool. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I think at least 10 days of jail time should be required for first time 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;offenders; instead of 20 hours of community service there should be 200 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;hours.&nbsp;&nbsp;200 hours of week-end inconvenience&nbsp;&nbsp;may have some real deterring 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;power for the first time offender.&nbsp;&nbsp;Effective programs need to be mandatory 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;for those diagnosed with drinking and other substance abuse problems and 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;paid for, where possible, by the offenders themselves.&nbsp;&nbsp;The counseling in 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;place now is a cruel joke.&nbsp;&nbsp;Stiff mandatory minimum sentence and fines 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;guidelines need to be statutorily set to offset the effects of the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;disqualification rule. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Several years ago an intoxicated Moscow woman murdered three Native 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Americans in Kootenay County in a DUI incident.&nbsp;&nbsp;Her sentence was three 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;years, served not at the state pen but on week-ends at the Latah County 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;jail.&nbsp;&nbsp;What kind of deterrence is this?&nbsp;&nbsp;What kind of retribution for 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;irresponsible, murderous behavior is this?&nbsp;&nbsp;What message to potential 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;offenders does this send? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I do not know what is in place now, but a about 25 years ago British 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Columbia enacted DUI legislation that very significantly reduced DUI related 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;injuries and fatalities.&nbsp;&nbsp;Failing a field sobriety test, an offender's 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;vehicle was impounded and not released until the case was heard without a 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;large hassle, if follow-up tests were positive.&nbsp;&nbsp;Several days of jail time 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;were mandatory for first offenders as well as a minimum $2500 fine.&nbsp;&nbsp;Second 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;time offenders lost driving privileges for at least a year and sometimes up 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;to five years.&nbsp;&nbsp;DWP brought immediate prolonged jail time and another very 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;large fine and could lead to permanent vehicle confiscation. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;In Finland several years ago the third DUI brought a life sentence in 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;prison.&nbsp;&nbsp;The DUI rate dropped drastically! 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;These are severe measures and certainly take a toll on the offender's family 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;(who do have some influence over the offender's behavior in many cases) but 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;they have worked well to protect potential innocent victims of criminally 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;irresponsible behavior. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Respectfully, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Wayne Fox 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; ----- Original Message ----- 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; From: Sunil Ramalingam 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; To: DonovArn@aol.com ; pkraut@moscow.com ; vision2020@moscow.com 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2004 10:21 PM 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Subject: Re: [Vision2020] highway 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Pat, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Thank you for your clarification.&nbsp;&nbsp;I commute to Lewiston daily, so I have 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;an interest in improvements to Highway 95.&nbsp;&nbsp;Yet I oppose the proposed 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Paradise Ridge route, not necessarily for environmental reasons.&nbsp;&nbsp;I think 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the Transportation Department intentionally offered two bad plans, with the 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;goal of building the Paradise Ridge route.&nbsp;&nbsp;They knew that the many people 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;who live along 95 now would mobilize and oppose that option.&nbsp;&nbsp;What other 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;options were looked at prior to winnowing down the choices?&nbsp;&nbsp;Why were these 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;two the 'best' choices?&nbsp;&nbsp;On winter days I check out the ridge to see how 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;much fog is sitting where the proposed road will run. I don't believe that 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;putting the highway up there is going to make me safer. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; I wonder why they didn't include an option that would run the highway 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;parallel to the state line, and connect with HY 8 around Walmart.&nbsp;&nbsp;I realize 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;that some downtown merchants would oppose this, but would this necessarily 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;harm Moscow's economy? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; I would like to pass this message along: Just because it's snowing does 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;not mean one must drive down Reisenauer Hill at 10 - 15 miles an hour.&nbsp;&nbsp;I've 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;come up behind someone doing this twice now, and it hasn't been fun.&nbsp;&nbsp;I 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;wasn't going over 40 either time, but it was still pretty hairy. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Donovan, I find it interesting that you think Idaho is too lax on drunk 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;drivers.&nbsp;&nbsp;One of the&nbsp;&nbsp;Kootenai County deputy prosecutors recently had a 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;column in the Spokesman-Review attacking Washington's ''lax" DUI laws, and 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;complained that Washington doesn't have a felony DUI law; he contrasted 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Idaho's wonderful felony DUI statute and argued that Washington should 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;follow our legislature's example.&nbsp;&nbsp;He campaigned to be a judge in Spokane in 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;the last election, and I took the column to be his opening salvo in his next 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;campaign.&nbsp;&nbsp;Now that you've identified our approach to DUIs as lax, he may 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;have to pick a new state to champion. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Sunil 
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