[Vision2020] The Damage Done in this Community

LuJane Nisse publisher lujane@lataheagle.com
Fri, 6 Feb 2004 16:18:57 -0800


did I do that? by saying "I don't understand" that means I don't have
empathy? my goodness, how things get twisted on here (one reason I don't
post much).
Was I bullied? YES... still am.... I am obese... talk to other obese people
that have been that way all their life. They live a life of pain (It is all
our fault you know).
Doesn't matter if I was or wasn't... My statement of "I don't understand" is
just that plain and simple. It doesn't matter how much education I have, how
many protests I go to, how many people I talk to... I WILL STILL NOT
UNDERSTAND. It isn't me to understand that behavior. It makes no sense.
You seem to think I am saying "I do not understand being gay".... that is
NOT what i've said. I said I don't understand why folks are mean to other
folks because of what they believe. Go back and read my post. It seems
anyone that says "I don't understand" is making a statement against a
minority group?
I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE ARE MEAN TO OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THEIR
BELIEFS, THEIR LIFESTYLES, THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN, THEIR RELIGION, THE SIZE
OF THEIR BUTT. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND MEANNESS.



-----Original Message-----
From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On
Behalf Of Art Deco
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:50 PM
To: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Damage Done in this Community


LuJane,

Were you ever cruelly bullied or had a close friend bullied in school?

If you could recall these experiences, perhaps you might begin to feel
empathy for others like the young woman below.  Its called opening your
heart and mind.  Though I am not a believer, I know this prescription
appears in one form or another in almost all of the world's major religions.

Feeling empathy could be the first step towards a greater understanding of
what those who are a little different in some harmless ways, yet become prey
for those who do not understand, do not want to understand, live in
ignorance and/or superstition, or who simply want to wantonly exercise
power.

Being gay is not leprosy.  It is a natural feeling that some people have.

Why should the rest of us attempt to tell other adults whom they can love or
whom they can choose to spend their life with?

Wayne Fox


----- Original Message -----
From: "LuJane Nisse publisher" <lujane@lataheagle.com>
To: "'Vision 20/20'" <vision2020@moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 2:40 PM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] The Damage Done in this Community


> I doubt I will ever understand why folks HURT others because they are
> different. Is it fear? Intolerance? Ignorance?
> I'm sorry for this lady and her problems. I wish I could change it for
her.
> LJ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On
> Behalf Of Tom Hansen
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 6:48 AM
> To: Melissa Hendrickson; 'Vision 20/20'
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] The Damage Done in this Community
>
>
> Melissa -
>
> Although I am not gay, I sympathize with your friend 100%.
>
> It has become painstakingly clear that some people fail to understand the
> concept of equality and attempt to define the world around them in their
own
> self-righteous terms.
>
> We must not . . . We cannot . . . We will not tolerate racial bias or
> homophobic ignorance.  We must be intolerant of such people.  That is what
> an Intolerista is all about.
>
> Please have yoiur friend contact us either via the website at:
>
> http://www.tomandrodna.com/notonthepalouse
>
> or via e-mail at:
>
> notonthepalouse@moscow.com
>
> She will find that many of us are like-minded as she is.
>
> Take care,
>
> Tom Hansen
> Not On The Palouse, Not Ever
>
> P.S. - I read in today's Spokesman-Review that there is an attempt in
Idaho
> to amend the Idaho Constitution to ban same-sex marriages.
>
> Let me see if I have this right.  It is wrong to ratify the Equal Rights
> Amendment, but right to adopt an amendment banning same-sex marriages?????
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On
> > Behalf Of Melissa Hendrickson
> > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 1:50 AM
> > To: 'Vision 20/20'
> > Subject: [Vision2020] The Damage Done in this Community
> >
> >
> > I want to share with all of you, those who post and those who are
> > "lurking" what a friend of mine wrote tonight while we were
> > hanging out.  I asked her permission to post her writing on this
> > list, because I felt it was something that people needed to hear.
> >  We can go back and forth on this list spewing words not thinking
> > that those words have any effect on the world around us, but they
> > do.  I ask that we all listen to her words, not just read them.
> > She asked that I not share her name, and you will understand why
> > when you read the letter.
> > All the emphasis is in her original letter.
> >
> > Mo
> >
> >    "It's not just that the Revolution & Modernity Conference,
> > (that is happening RIGHT NOW) is killing us.  It's not just that
> > I am afraid of persecution in a million forms, but actually
> > afraid for my physical safety as well. It's not just that I am
> > afraid for my mental health. It's not just that I have had two
> > hours of sleep in the last 40 hours.  It's not just that my
> > friends and I have been working in a self-sacrificing manner on
> > this for five months, and it's not because I have become a
> > vulnerable public target in order to do what my spirit and mind
> > require of me - and I had no other choice, bujt the choice of
> > allowing my soul to corrode and my world to deteriorate and a
> > (non)alternative to fighting what I KNOW I MUST DO.
> >
> >     "But it is also that I feel that the love of my life is
> > slipping away from me at the same time and my heart is breaking
> > while I have tried to fight for justice.
> >
> >     "Such a juxtoposition may seem trivial to some, but as a gay
> > woman, I know that my gay community deals with this struggle
> > everyday - the struggle to fight the battles of life AND fight
> > the daily battles of being gay at the same time.
> >
> >    "This is my world.
> >
> >    "Remember this when you go home to rest in your safe place
> > tonight, because some of us have none."
> >
> >
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