[Vision2020] The Damage Done in this Community
Art Deco
deco@moscow.com
Fri, 6 Feb 2004 16:23:11 -0800
LuJane,
Thank you for clarifying your message. I am very sorry that I found your
previous message ambiguous. I hope that I understand you now.
Thank you.
Wayne Fox
----- Original Message -----
From: "LuJane Nisse publisher" <lujane@lataheagle.com>
To: "Art Deco" <deco@moscow.com>; <vision2020@moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 4:18 PM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] The Damage Done in this Community
> did I do that? by saying "I don't understand" that means I don't have
> empathy? my goodness, how things get twisted on here (one reason I don't
> post much).
> Was I bullied? YES... still am.... I am obese... talk to other obese
people
> that have been that way all their life. They live a life of pain (It is
all
> our fault you know).
> Doesn't matter if I was or wasn't... My statement of "I don't understand"
is
> just that plain and simple. It doesn't matter how much education I have,
how
> many protests I go to, how many people I talk to... I WILL STILL NOT
> UNDERSTAND. It isn't me to understand that behavior. It makes no sense.
> You seem to think I am saying "I do not understand being gay".... that is
> NOT what i've said. I said I don't understand why folks are mean to other
> folks because of what they believe. Go back and read my post. It seems
> anyone that says "I don't understand" is making a statement against a
> minority group?
> I DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE ARE MEAN TO OTHER PEOPLE BECAUSE OF THEIR
> BELIEFS, THEIR LIFESTYLES, THE COLOR OF THEIR SKIN, THEIR RELIGION, THE
SIZE
> OF THEIR BUTT. I DO NOT UNDERSTAND MEANNESS.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On
> Behalf Of Art Deco
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 3:50 PM
> To: vision2020@moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] The Damage Done in this Community
>
>
> LuJane,
>
> Were you ever cruelly bullied or had a close friend bullied in school?
>
> If you could recall these experiences, perhaps you might begin to feel
> empathy for others like the young woman below. Its called opening your
> heart and mind. Though I am not a believer, I know this prescription
> appears in one form or another in almost all of the world's major
religions.
>
> Feeling empathy could be the first step towards a greater understanding of
> what those who are a little different in some harmless ways, yet become
prey
> for those who do not understand, do not want to understand, live in
> ignorance and/or superstition, or who simply want to wantonly exercise
> power.
>
> Being gay is not leprosy. It is a natural feeling that some people have.
>
> Why should the rest of us attempt to tell other adults whom they can love
or
> whom they can choose to spend their life with?
>
> Wayne Fox
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "LuJane Nisse publisher" <lujane@lataheagle.com>
> To: "'Vision 20/20'" <vision2020@moscow.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 2:40 PM
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] The Damage Done in this Community
>
>
> > I doubt I will ever understand why folks HURT others because they are
> > different. Is it fear? Intolerance? Ignorance?
> > I'm sorry for this lady and her problems. I wish I could change it for
> her.
> > LJ
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On
> > Behalf Of Tom Hansen
> > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 6:48 AM
> > To: Melissa Hendrickson; 'Vision 20/20'
> > Subject: RE: [Vision2020] The Damage Done in this Community
> >
> >
> > Melissa -
> >
> > Although I am not gay, I sympathize with your friend 100%.
> >
> > It has become painstakingly clear that some people fail to understand
the
> > concept of equality and attempt to define the world around them in their
> own
> > self-righteous terms.
> >
> > We must not . . . We cannot . . . We will not tolerate racial bias or
> > homophobic ignorance. We must be intolerant of such people. That is
what
> > an Intolerista is all about.
> >
> > Please have yoiur friend contact us either via the website at:
> >
> > http://www.tomandrodna.com/notonthepalouse
> >
> > or via e-mail at:
> >
> > notonthepalouse@moscow.com
> >
> > She will find that many of us are like-minded as she is.
> >
> > Take care,
> >
> > Tom Hansen
> > Not On The Palouse, Not Ever
> >
> > P.S. - I read in today's Spokesman-Review that there is an attempt in
> Idaho
> > to amend the Idaho Constitution to ban same-sex marriages.
> >
> > Let me see if I have this right. It is wrong to ratify the Equal Rights
> > Amendment, but right to adopt an amendment banning same-sex
marriages?????
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On
> > > Behalf Of Melissa Hendrickson
> > > Sent: Friday, February 06, 2004 1:50 AM
> > > To: 'Vision 20/20'
> > > Subject: [Vision2020] The Damage Done in this Community
> > >
> > >
> > > I want to share with all of you, those who post and those who are
> > > "lurking" what a friend of mine wrote tonight while we were
> > > hanging out. I asked her permission to post her writing on this
> > > list, because I felt it was something that people needed to hear.
> > > We can go back and forth on this list spewing words not thinking
> > > that those words have any effect on the world around us, but they
> > > do. I ask that we all listen to her words, not just read them.
> > > She asked that I not share her name, and you will understand why
> > > when you read the letter.
> > > All the emphasis is in her original letter.
> > >
> > > Mo
> > >
> > > "It's not just that the Revolution & Modernity Conference,
> > > (that is happening RIGHT NOW) is killing us. It's not just that
> > > I am afraid of persecution in a million forms, but actually
> > > afraid for my physical safety as well. It's not just that I am
> > > afraid for my mental health. It's not just that I have had two
> > > hours of sleep in the last 40 hours. It's not just that my
> > > friends and I have been working in a self-sacrificing manner on
> > > this for five months, and it's not because I have become a
> > > vulnerable public target in order to do what my spirit and mind
> > > require of me - and I had no other choice, bujt the choice of
> > > allowing my soul to corrode and my world to deteriorate and a
> > > (non)alternative to fighting what I KNOW I MUST DO.
> > >
> > > "But it is also that I feel that the love of my life is
> > > slipping away from me at the same time and my heart is breaking
> > > while I have tried to fight for justice.
> > >
> > > "Such a juxtoposition may seem trivial to some, but as a gay
> > > woman, I know that my gay community deals with this struggle
> > > everyday - the struggle to fight the battles of life AND fight
> > > the daily battles of being gay at the same time.
> > >
> > > "This is my world.
> > >
> > > "Remember this when you go home to rest in your safe place
> > > tonight, because some of us have none."
> > >
> > >
> > > _____________________________________________________
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> > > serving the communities of the Palouse since 1994.
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