[Vision2020] RE: Open Wager to Mr. Arnold

Donovan Arnold donovanarnold@hotmail.com
Sat, 20 Sep 2003 01:02:19 -0700


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<P>Dale,</P>
<P>Please explain where I lied. Please provide proof. Now none of speculation please, or taking things out of context. </P>
<P>Donovan J Arnold<BR><BR></P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "Dale Courtney" <DMCOURTN@MOSCOW.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: <VISION2020@MOSCOW.COM>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: Re: [Vision2020] RE: Open Wager to Mr. Arnold 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:50:40 -0700 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Donovan, 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Is this one of your "I'll lie if I don't like what you're saying" posts (http://lists2.fsr.net/pipermail/vision2020/2003-September/004424.html). 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;I just can't tell when you are being truthful or deceptive per your ethics you stated above. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Oh, wait! If you answer me, how will I know whether that's a "lie to cover" or really the truth. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Guess we'll just never know. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Dale 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt;PS -- yours lying ethic is archived. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; ----- Original Message ----- 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; From: Donovan Arnold 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; To: thansen@moscow.com ; vision2020@moscow.com 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; Sent: Friday, September 19, 2003 12:57 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; Subject: RE: [Vision2020] RE: Open Wager to Mr. Arnold 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; No, Tom. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; They changed it to the age of 23 if you are still in college, not 21 anymore. I had mine for 3 years longer because they messed up on my birth date at Fairchild Airforce Base. My dad tried to change it back to the right year but it was too much of a hassle. They said I was 3 years younger, and that if we disagreed with my birth date to go appeal it to DC. It was not worth the hassle so we didn't bother. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; To bad you would not accept the wager. But that is because you know you are full of it. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; In case you didn't know, you can scan an ID and block out the last 5 digits of your SS number and make it in B&amp;W and a different size. You can also put the words "COPY" across the top of it. So I don't buy your excuses. I also stated I would take any other reasonable evidence they served in the military. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; Donovan J Arnold 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;From: "Tom Hansen" 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Reply-To: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;To: "Donovan Arnold" , 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Subject: RE: [Vision2020] RE: Open Wager to Mr. Arnold 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 06:10:05 -0700 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Donovan Arnold stated: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;"Regardless of what you may think about the "almighty" Military ID, I had 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;one for 26 years." 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;You earlier stated that you were never on active duty, that you grew up 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;around active duty members throughout your childhood as a dependent (or as 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;they were later referred to "family members"). Am I to assume that you were 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;a dependent of your parents until you were 26? Military dependents are 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;required to surrender their ID cards upon reaching 18 years of age (or in 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;some extreme cases, 21). Or are you simply "bending" the truth? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Mr. Arnold went on to say: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;"The information on the military ID is public knowledge." 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Since when is my social security number considered "public knowledge"? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;And yet he states: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;"What is stupid is to allow the card in actual size and in full color to be 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;duplicated." 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Like (as you suggested) scanning? 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;And the dumb get dumber: 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;"Especially when the only thing it gets you is 25 cents off a bag of cereal 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;at the Commissary." 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;It is called identify theft, Mr. Arnold. And the bad guys do it for alot 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;more than access to the commissary. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;As far as continuing this "ad nauseum" childishness, I will simply terminate 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;it at this point. Every time I mention the wager, you rspond with absolute 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;rhetoric and standards of proof that exceed common sense. 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Take care, and don't forget to return your dependent ID card (it is 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;governemnt property, you know) . . . 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Tom Hansen 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Moscow, Idaho 
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; 
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