[Vision2020] Deep in the Matrix a Voice is Heard Whispering...

[Art Deco]

Re: Doug Jones on Computers

Unfortunately DJ does not appear to understand that logic deals with
relations between statements in a language to one another.  Unless the world
order changes statements describing the way processors in computers
successfully operate on the macro level and the physical level (when not in
disrepair) correspond to the rules of Boolean Logic otherwise known to
philosophers as the sentential calculus.  Using these rules, the behavior of
computers can be very, very  accurately predicted,

Since Mr. Jones studied philosophy, I assume that he knows his argument is
not against Ted's but a straw man Mr. Jones set up to smokescreen the
issue -- a common tactic at the cult.

I am sorry that Jones does not accept that logic is about the relationship
about statements in a language to one another.  I can understand why,
however -- poof goes his alleged god -- but not necessarily other alleged
gods.

Smoke screening the issue is a common tactic of charlatans.

I'm still waiting for an illustration and explanation of a true
contradiction or a valid argument with true premises but a false conclusion.
When I see such alleged, then this dialogue can be much more constructive.

Wayne Fox

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Doug Jones" <credenda@moscow.com>
To: "'Vision 20/20'" <vision2020@moscow.com>
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 7:14 AM
Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Deep in the Matrix a Voice is Heard Whispering...


> Ted makes a simple mistake:
>
> > There is no doubt that computers function according to logical and
> > mathematical rules that are a part of the tradition of logic that
> Wayne Fox
> > references in his arguments about logic, evidence and truth.
> >
>
> I hate to break this to you, Ted, but there is no logical necessity
> within your computer or mine, only physical necessity. If you have some
> logical necessity in yours, please drop some in an envelope to me, and
> we together can become billionaires overnight. Dell, HP, Intel would
> fall over themselves for some of that frictionless, eternal, immaterial
> stuff that loads the "law of noncontradiction" and Wayne's fantasy
> world. Logic is intended to deal with those relations that physics
> can't. You've actually eliminated traditional logic by reducing it to
> physics. I have no beef with that, but you've then abandoned logic and
> the law of noncontradiction, which goes against your and Wayne's hope.
>
> Doug Jones
>
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