[Vision2020] University of Idaho

Ron Force rforce@moscow.com
Tue, 13 May 2003 12:17:24 -0700


UI "Peers" were chosen and verified by an educational consulting firm
employed by the Board of Education.  They tried to match educational mission
and programs as closely as possible.  California schools were eliminated
since they exist in a different economic system.  If you control for size,
and look at "per" things-- expenditures per student, research per faculty
member, the UI matches up pretty well with its peers. I don't believe that
athletics was a consideration, although one of the reasons WSU clings to the
PAC-10 is those are the institutions with whom it wishes to identify. The
Big Twelve and the Big Ten have similar educational associations.  Would the
UI like to have such associations?  You Bet! Is the Sun Belt where they'd
like to be?  No.  But it keeps them in the game, with the hope that a future
league realignment will produce something better.

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Ron Force	      	  rforce@moscow.com
Moscow Idaho USA
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On
> Behalf Of Mushroom
> Sent: Tuesday, May 13, 2003 10:27 AM
> To: vision2020@moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] University of Idaho
>
>
> Tom Hansen wrote:
> >
> > The Idaho State Board of Education considers the UI to be in a
> peer group of
> > 15 other universities in the U.S.   It is a very respectable group of
> > schools and 14 of the 15 play 1-A football.  One of the arguments the UI
> > administration has made is that competing in 1-A football is typical of
> > educational institutions in their peer group.
> > As most of you know, three of these schools are on UI's 2003
> schedule (WSU,
> > USU, NMSU),  five have been on recent UI football schedules (Arizona,
> > Wyoming, MSU, Nevada, CSU), and one (OSU) is on future UI
> schedules.  If UI
> > dropped back to 1-AA football, its scheduling of peer
> institutions would be
> > limited to Montana State.  After seeing the names of the peer
> schools, the
> > point made by the UI administration made more sense.
> >
>
> If you pick schools that play 1-A football to make up a peer
> group, then you can make that point, I guess. It's worth
> noting that most of the schools mentioned spend a lot more
> than UI on academics, even if you take those schools larger
> enrollments into account. I suspect that only two of the
> schools mentioned (I guess there are others not mentioned)
> aren't a big cut above the UI on average faculty salary, and
> they are also the only two that UI would stand a chance of
> defeating in football.
>
> Go Vandals -- to a conference with some other schools in
> this quarter of the country.
>
> Don Coombs
>
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