[Vision2020] Re: Predictions for 1st century C.E.

Dale Courtney dale@courtneys.us
Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:33:25 -0700


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Ralph,
 
Then you need to get out and smell the coffee more often. These charges are
not novel with you. Bertrand Russell tried them long ago. However, they were
not new with him either; in fact, they were effectively argued against
centuries ago. 
 
How funny we think that we find new questions that no one has asked for the
last 2,000 years. Very provincial of us...
 
Vision2020 is not a forum for discussing Christian doctrine, so I'm not
going to tutor you here. If you want a reading list that discusses what you
call a "novel" (but what is a historical) distinction between a "coming in
judgment" and a "physical coming", contact me off-line and I'll give you
more references that you have years left to read. 
 
Best,
Dale
 



RALPH NIELSEN
Dale, you forgot to show us where in the New Testament it distinguishes
between what you call "a coming in judgment" and "a personal coming." You
didn't get them from the text and you didn't get the idea from serious NT
scholars. I have never heard of this kind of rationalization before. 


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