[Vision2020] Re: Predictions for 1st century C.E.
Ralph Nielsen
nielsen@uidaho.edu
Tue, 29 Jul 2003 15:24:38 -0700
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> RALPH NIELSEN
> Here are some predictions that were made over 1900 years ago that were =
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> supposed to have taken place within a generation or two after they =20
> were made:
>
> Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall
> not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his
> kingdom. Matt. 16:28
>
> But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall
> not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God. Luke 9:27
>
> See Acts 2:15-17 in which Peter invokes a prophecy by Joel to
> explain why a gathering of diverse peoples understood each other's
> language. This outpouring of God's Spirit was a sign that the end
> was near.
>
> But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both
> they that have wives be as though they had none; 1 Cor. 7:29
>
> Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at
> hand. Phil. 4:5
>
> For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are
> alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent =20
> [precede]
> them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from
> heaven... Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up
> together with them in the clouds...
> 1 Thess. 4:15-16
>
> God...Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son... Heb.
> 1:1-2
>
> For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the
> world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to
> put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. Heb. 9:26
>
> For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and
> will not tarry. Heb. 10:37
>
> Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord...
> stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth
> nigh...behold, the judge standeth before the door. James 5:7-9
>
> But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and
> watch unto prayer. 1 Peter 4:7
>
> Christ...was manifest in these last times for you,... 1 Peter 1:19-
> 20
>
> Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that
> antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby
> we know that it is the last time. 1 John 2:18
>
> The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to
> shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass;...
> Rev. 1:1
>
> Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this
> prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the
> time is at hand.
> Rev. 1:3
>
> Behold, I come quickly. Rev. 3:11
>
> And he said unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this
> book: for the time is at hand... He which testifieth these things
> saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
> Rev. 22:10, 20.
>
> But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for
> verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of
> Israel, till the Son of man be come. Matt 10:23
>
> =
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> Nixon: "I am not a crook."
> Bush I: "Read my lips -- no new taxes."
> Jesus: "I am coming soon." (Rev. 3:11)
>
> Ralph Nielsen
> Moscow
>
>
>
>
> From: "Dale Courtney" <dale@courtneys.us>
> Date: Tue Jul 29, 2003 10:12:53 AM US/Pacific
> To: <vision2020@moscow.com>
> Subject: RE: [Vision2020] Re: Predictions for August 2003
>
>
> Ralph,
> =A0
> You're a hoot. Stambler is a false prophet and you falsely interpret =20=
> prophecies. Are you sure that he's not your son?
> =A0
> Even a child can understand the difference between a "coming in =20
> judgment" and a personal coming. There was=A0a coming in judgment in =
70 =20
> AD. All those prophecies you cited were fully fulfilled in the first =20=
> century, just as Christ said they would be.
> =A0
> But then again, your mind has already chosen to embrace what your =20
> heart=A0believes. Enjoy your spiritual mastu...=A0 oh, never mind.
>
RALPH NIELSEN
Dale, you forgot to show us where in the New Testament it distinguishes =20=
between what you call "a coming in judgment" and "a personal coming." =20=
You didn't get them from the text and you didn't get the idea from =20
serious NT scholars. I have never heard of this kind of rationalization =20=
before.=20=
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<excerpt>RALPH NIELSEN
Here are some predictions that were made over 1900 years ago that were
supposed to have taken place within a generation or two after they
were made:
Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall
not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his
kingdom. Matt. 16:28
But I tell you of a truth, there be some standing here, which shall
not taste of death, till they see the kingdom of God. Luke 9:27
See Acts 2:15-17 in which Peter invokes a prophecy by Joel to
explain why a gathering of diverse peoples understood each other's
language. This outpouring of God's Spirit was a sign that the end
was near.
But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both
they that have wives be as though they had none; 1 Cor. 7:29
Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at
hand. Phil. 4:5
For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are
alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent
[precede]=20
them which are asleep. For the Lord himself shall descend from
heaven... Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up
together with them in the clouds...
1 Thess. 4:15-16
God...Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son... Heb.
1:1-2
For then must he often have suffered since the foundation of the
world: but now once in the end of the world hath he appeared to
put away sin by the sacrifice of himself. Heb. 9:26
For yet a little while, and he that shall come will come, and
will not tarry. Heb. 10:37
Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord...
stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth
nigh...behold, the judge standeth before the door. James 5:7-9
But the end of all things is at hand: be ye therefore sober, and
watch unto prayer. 1 Peter 4:7
Christ...was manifest in these last times for you,... 1 Peter 1:19-
20
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that
antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby
we know that it is the last time. 1 John 2:18
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to
shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass;...
Rev. 1:1
Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this
prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the
time is at hand.
Rev. 1:3
Behold, I come quickly. Rev. 3:11
And he said unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this
book: for the time is at hand... He which testifieth these things
saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
Rev. 22:10, 20.
But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for
verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of
Israel, till the Son of man be come. Matt 10:23
=
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Nixon: "I am not a crook."
Bush I: "Read my lips -- no new taxes."
Jesus: "I am coming soon." (Rev. 3:11)
Ralph Nielsen
Moscow
<bold>
From: </bold>"Dale Courtney" <<dale@courtneys.us>
<bold>Date: </bold>Tue Jul 29, 2003 10:12:53 AM US/Pacific
<bold>To: </bold><<vision2020@moscow.com>
<bold>Subject: </bold>RE: [Vision2020] Re: Predictions for August 2003
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=A0
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RALPH NIELSEN
Dale, you forgot to show us where in the New Testament it
distinguishes between what you call "a coming in judgment" and "a
personal coming." You didn't get them from the text and you didn't get
the idea from serious NT scholars. I have never heard of this kind of
rationalization before.=20=
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