[Vision2020] Melynda Huskey Charges John Harrell Falsely Wit
h Plagrism
Thomas Hansen
tomh@FNA.fsn.uidaho.edu
Tue, 1 Jul 2003 10:15:19 -0700
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Must . . . . stay . . . . . focused . . . . .
So . . . .many . . . . . . . . . children
So . . . . . . little . . . . . . . time
Take care,
Tom Hansen
"We are not out to control the whole world, just a 'small' part of it."
-----Original Message-----
From: John Harrell [mailto:johnbharrell@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 10:09 AM
To: Melynda Huskey; vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Melynda Huskey Charges John Harrell Falsely With
Plagrism
Wait a second, are you saying the following quotes are not true?
QUOTATION: When an opponent declares, "I will not come over to your side," I
calmly say, "Your child belongs to us already.... What are you? You will
pass
on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In a short time
they
will know nothing else but this new community."
ATTRIBUTION: Adolf Hitler (1889-1945), German dictator. speech, Nov. 6,
1933.
Quoted in William L. Shirer, "Education in the Third Reich," ch. 8, The Rise
and Fall of the Third Reich (1959); speaking about the schools and their
indoctrination of the Hilterjugend (Hitler Youth Corps).
It was Adolph Hitler who said, "Let me control the textbooks, and I will
control the state."
Norman Thomas, Socialist and member of the Civil Liberties Union, boldly
told the world, "The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism,
but under the name of liberalism, they will adopt every fragment of the
Socialist program until one day America will! be a Socialist nation without
ever knowing how it happened."
"Give me your four year olds," said Lenin "and in a generation I will build
a Socialist state."
Lesbian author Patricia Warren, boldly told the gay and lesbian community,
"It is the FIRST fact of civilization that--whoever captures the kids - owns
the future."
In his book 'The Science Of Power', Benjamin Kidd wrote, "Give us the young.
-- Give us the young and We will create a new mind and a new Earth in a
SINGLE
generation."
Ross L. Finny, a socialist PhD in one of his books tells us this;
"Everything
depends on passing out the expert opinions of the social scientists to the
masses of the people; the schools are the only adequate agency for this
function."
Lastly, the American Humanist Association understands the importance of
capturing the children - for they have written: "In order to capture this
nation, one has to totally remove moral and s! piritual values and absolutes
from
the thinking of the child. The child has to think that there is no standard
of
right and wrong, that truth is relative, and that diversity is the only
absolute
to be gained."
Cheers!
John Harrell
Melynda Huskey <melyndah@wsu.edu> wrote:
John writes:
>I pulled the quotes off of another bulletin board. . . . And so what
>anyway. If I had found that
>website, I would given the link, because I really don't care who first
>compiled them. So actually Melynda did me a service.
Ah, the old "Well, it's not plagiarism if I steal it from someone who's
already stolen it" argument--also popular among fraternity men using the
house files. This is your second strike, John: the Academic Misconduct
committee would be seeing you if you were my student.
I'd suggest that if you hope to use quotations to bolster an argument, it
behooves you to collect your own, and to be sure that they are accurate and
germane. That's how grownups argue.
Of course, if your opinions are acquired in the same way as your
quotations, perhaps it doesn't matter.
Anybody m! issing a derivative and unsupported claim? John's got a Lost and
Found Ideas box you might check.
Melynda Huskey
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<DIV><SPAN class=345181217-01072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Must .
. . . stay . . . . . focused . . . . .</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=345181217-01072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>So . .
. .many . . . . . . . . . children</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=345181217-01072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=345181217-01072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>So . .
. . . . little . . . . . . . time</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=345181217-01072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=345181217-01072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Take
care,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=345181217-01072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=345181217-01072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Tom
Hansen</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=345181217-01072003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>"We
are not out to control the whole world, just a 'small' part of
it."</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma
size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> John Harrell
[mailto:johnbharrell@yahoo.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 01, 2003 10:09
AM<BR><B>To:</B> Melynda Huskey; vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[Vision2020] Melynda Huskey Charges John Harrell Falsely With
Plagrism<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV>Wait a second, are you saying the following quotes are not true?</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>QUOTATION: When an opponent declares, "I will not come over to your
side," I <BR>calmly say, "Your child belongs to us already.... What are you?
You will pass <BR>on. Your descendants, however, now stand in the new camp. In
a short time they <BR>will know nothing else but this new
community."<BR><BR>ATTRIBUTION: Adolf Hitler (1889-1945), German dictator.
speech, Nov. 6, 1933. <BR>Quoted in William L. Shirer, "Education in the Third
Reich," ch. 8, The Rise <BR>and Fall of the Third Reich (1959); speaking about
the schools and their<BR>indoctrination of the Hilterjugend (Hitler Youth
Corps).<BR><BR>It was Adolph Hitler who said, "Let me control the textbooks,
and I will <BR>control the state."<BR><BR>Norman Thomas, Socialist and member
of the Civil Liberties Union, boldly <BR>told the world, "The American people
will never knowingly adopt Socialism, <BR>but under the name of liberalism,
they will adopt every fragment of the <BR>Socialist program until one day
America will! be a Socialist nation without <BR>ever knowing how it
happened."<BR><BR>"Give me your four year olds," said Lenin "and in a
generation I will build <BR>a Socialist state."<BR><BR>Lesbian author Patricia
Warren, boldly told the gay and lesbian community, <BR>"It is the FIRST fact
of civilization that--whoever captures the kids - owns <BR>the
future."<BR><BR>In his book 'The Science Of Power', Benjamin Kidd wrote, "Give
us the young. <BR>-- Give us the young and We will create a new mind and a new
Earth in a SINGLE <BR>generation."<BR><BR>Ross L. Finny, a socialist PhD in
one of his books tells us this; "Everything <BR>depends on passing out the
expert opinions of the social scientists to the <BR>masses of the people; the
schools are the only adequate agency for this function."<BR><BR>Lastly, the
American Humanist Association understands the importance of <BR>capturing the
children - for they have written: "In order to capture this <BR>nation, one
has to totally remove moral and s! piritual values and absolutes from<BR>the
thinking of the child. The child has to think that there is no standard of
<BR>right and wrong, that truth is relative, and that diversity is the only
absolute <BR>to be gained."</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Cheers!</DIV>
<DIV>John Harrell</DIV>
<DIV><BR><BR><B><I>Melynda Huskey <melyndah@wsu.edu></I></B>
wrote:</DIV>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid; WIDTH: 100%">John
writes:<BR><BR>>I pulled the quotes off of another bulletin board. . . .
And so what <BR>>anyway. If I had found that<BR>>website, I would
given the link, because I really don't care who first<BR>>compiled them.
So actually Melynda did me a service.<BR><BR>Ah, the old "Well, it's not
plagiarism if I steal it from someone who's <BR>already stolen it"
argument--also popular among fraternity men using the <BR>house files. This
is your second strike, John: the Academic Misconduct <BR>committee would be
seeing you if you were my student.<BR><BR>I'd suggest that if you hope to
use quotations to bolster an argument, it <BR>behooves you to collect your
own, and to be sure that they are accurate and <BR>germane. That's how
grownups argue.<BR><BR>Of course, if your opinions are acquired in the same
way as your <BR>quotations, perhaps it doesn't matter.<BR><BR>Anybody m!
issing a derivative and unsupported claim? John's got a Lost and <BR>Found
Ideas box you might check.<BR><BR>Melynda
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