[Vision2020] Apathetic Liberals

Dale Courtney dmcourtn@moscow.com
Sat, 13 Dec 2003 15:47:46 -0800


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Rose,

Hate to burst your bubble; but those people who were shouting were not =
Christ Church members. It was all video taped. One man in the =
back-center of the auditorium shouted for her to "sit down and shut up". =
Mrs. Stoneman asked "are you a Christ Church member" and he yelled "no!" =
Then that same man got up, walked down to the front, and escorted her =
out. He was an older gentleman; unlikely he is a bouncer (though he may =
have been one 40 years ago).=20

When she further said "the public wants to know!", another non-CC man =
from the middle left said "we are the public! Sit down and shut up!" =20

Feel free to verify this with anyone who was there -- or you can check =
the video.

What Mrs. Stoneman needs is our prayers, support, and sympathy. She's =
been thru hell (read thru all the articles over at =
http://www.valuachild.com/ to see what she and her children have been =
thru).=20

And, yes, I wish you had been there too. It would have been nice to meet =
you and Don at last.

Best,
Dale


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: DonaldH675@aol.com=20
  To: vision2020@moscow.com=20
  Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 14:30
  Subject: [Vision2020] Apathetic Liberals


  Dear Visionaries,

  =20

  Although I sent one of the earliest =E2=80=9CThanks but no =
thanks=E2=80=9D posts to Doug=E2=80=99s invitation to attend his =
=E2=80=9CTown Meeting,=E2=80=9D I am now deeply sorry I didn=E2=80=99t =
make the effort. (and a giant penance it would have been.) to attend.  =
Others had told me that a woman was escorted out of the meeting amid =
shouts of =E2=80=9CShut Up and =E2=80=9CSit Down=E2=80=9D  Thanks to =
Ruth=E2=80=99s email  I have a clearer sense of the events.

  =20

  Anyone who sat silently with their ass glued to their seat while the =
shouting and escorting out was taking place shouldn=E2=80=99t shrink, in =
my opinion, from placing their collective bums on folding chairs in the =
Logos gym every Sunday morning while Doug channels his weekly sermon =
from R.L. Dabney.  (Be sure to bring your wallets and pocket books for =
the offering.) In your silent assent you were cooperating/supporting the =
racist, sexist, homophobic, patriarchal agenda of Christ Church (pastor =
and communicants), or even more pathetically, falling prey to =
Doug=E2=80=99s purported charisma. Shame to you!  You were handed a =
classic example of how dissent is silenced and yet, there you sat, =
either unwilling or unable to protest =E2=80=93 failing to get up and =
walk out yourself.  It is my hope that none of you excuse your inaction =
under the ruse of not knowing how to respond to an awkward social =
situation, or wanting to avoid public embarrassment. That is pure =
baloney.  Spineless is the kindest descriptions that comes to my mind =
=E2=80=93 closely followed by the term limousine liberal.   And God =
knows, there have always been a plethora of those folks in university =
towns. YIKES!!!=20

  =20

  Rose Huskey

  =20

  And what=E2=80=99s with the bouncer stuff =E2=80=93 Doug traveling =
with his private security squad these days?  Talk about delusional =
grandiosity.  I=E2=80=99ll be on the look for the stretch limo next.

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<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Rose,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Hate to burst your bubble; =
but those=20
people who were shouting were <U>not</U> Christ Church members. It was =
all video=20
taped. One man in the back-center of the auditorium&nbsp;shouted for her =
to "sit=20
down and shut up". Mrs. Stoneman asked "are you a Christ Church member" =
and he=20
yelled "no!" Then that same man got up,&nbsp;walked&nbsp;down to the=20
front,&nbsp;and escorted her out. He was an older gentleman; unlikely he =
is a=20
bouncer (though he may have been one 40 years ago). </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>When she further&nbsp;said =
"the public=20
wants to know!", another non-CC man from the middle left said "we are =
the=20
public! Sit down and shut up!"&nbsp; </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Feel free to verify this =
with anyone=20
who was there -- or you can check the video.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>What Mrs. Stoneman needs is =
our=20
prayers, support, and sympathy. She's been thru hell (read thru all the =
articles=20
over at&nbsp;<A=20
href=3D"http://www.valuachild.com/">http://www.valuachild.com/</A>&nbsp;t=
o see=20
what she and her children have been thru). </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>And, yes, I wish you had =
been there=20
too. It would have been nice to meet you and Don at last.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Best,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Dale</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3DDonaldH675@aol.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:DonaldH675@aol.com">DonaldH675@aol.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com=20
  href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 13, =
2003=20
  14:30</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] Apathetic =

  Liberals</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3>Dear Visionaries,</FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT=20
  face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3>Although I sent one of the earliest =E2=80=9CThanks but no =
thanks=E2=80=9D posts to=20
  Doug=E2=80=99s invitation to attend his =E2=80=9CTown =
Meeting,=E2=80=9D I am now deeply sorry I didn=E2=80=99t=20
  make the effort. (and a giant penance it would have been.) to =
attend.<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Others had told me that a =
woman was=20
  escorted out of the meeting amid shouts of =E2=80=9CShut Up and =
=E2=80=9CSit Down=E2=80=9D <SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>Thanks to Ruth=E2=80=99s =
email <SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>I have a clearer sense of the =

  events.</FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT=20
  face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3>Anyone who sat silently with their ass glued to their seat =
while the=20
  shouting and escorting out was taking place shouldn=E2=80=99t shrink, =
in my opinion,=20
  from placing their collective bums on folding chairs in the Logos gym =
every=20
  Sunday morning while Doug channels his weekly sermon from R.L. =
Dabney.<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>(Be sure to bring your =
wallets and=20
  pocket books for the offering.) In your silent assent you were=20
  cooperating/supporting the racist, sexist, homophobic, patriarchal =
agenda of=20
  <st1:place><st1:PlaceName>Christ</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType>Church =
(pastor=20
  and communicants)</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>, or even more =
pathetically,=20
  falling prey to Doug=E2=80=99s purported charisma. Shame to you!<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>You were handed a classic =
example of=20
  how dissent is silenced and yet, there you sat, either unwilling or =
unable to=20
  protest =E2=80=93 failing to get up and walk out yourself.<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>It is my hope that none of =
you excuse=20
  your inaction under the ruse of not knowing how to respond to an =
awkward=20
  social situation, or&nbsp;wanting to avoid public embarrassment.<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;That is pure baloney</SPAN>.<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN>Spineless is the kindest =
descriptions=20
  that comes to my mind =E2=80=93 closely followed by the term limousine =
liberal.<SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; </SPAN><SPAN=20
  style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;</SPAN>And God knows, there have =
always been a=20
  plethora of those folks in university towns. YIKES!!! </FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT=20
  face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3>Rose Huskey</FONT></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT=20
  face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>&nbsp;</FONT></o:p></P>
  <P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face=3D"Times =
New Roman"=20
  size=3D3>And what=E2=80=99s with the bouncer stuff =E2=80=93 Doug =
traveling with his private=20
  security squad these days?<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp; =
</SPAN>Talk=20
  about delusional grandiosity.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes">&nbsp;=20
  </SPAN>I=E2=80=99ll be on the look for the stretch limo=20
next.</FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>

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