[Vision2020] Apathetic Liberals
Tom Hansen
thansen@moscow.com
Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:29:30 -0800
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I assume that the Dougster will be demanding a retraction from the =
Spokesman Review then, since your version differs considerably from =
theres, Mr. Courtney.
Tom Hansen
Just another liberal elitist
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From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com =
[mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]On Behalf Of Dale Courtney
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 3:48 PM
To: vision2020@moscow.com
Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Apathetic Liberals
Rose,
Hate to burst your bubble; but those people who were shouting were not =
Christ Church members. It was all video taped. One man in the =
back-center of the auditorium shouted for her to "sit down and shut up". =
Mrs. Stoneman asked "are you a Christ Church member" and he yelled "no!" =
Then that same man got up, walked down to the front, and escorted her =
out. He was an older gentleman; unlikely he is a bouncer (though he may =
have been one 40 years ago).=20
When she further said "the public wants to know!", another non-CC man =
from the middle left said "we are the public! Sit down and shut up!" =20
Feel free to verify this with anyone who was there -- or you can check =
the video.
What Mrs. Stoneman needs is our prayers, support, and sympathy. She's =
been thru hell (read thru all the articles over at =
http://www.valuachild.com/ to see what she and her children have been =
thru).=20
And, yes, I wish you had been there too. It would have been nice to =
meet you and Don at last.
Best,
Dale
----- Original Message -----=20
From: DonaldH675@aol.com=20
To: vision2020@moscow.com=20
Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2003 14:30
Subject: [Vision2020] Apathetic Liberals
Dear Visionaries,
=20
Although I sent one of the earliest =E2=80=9CThanks but no =
thanks=E2=80=9D posts to Doug=E2=80=99s invitation to attend his =
=E2=80=9CTown Meeting,=E2=80=9D I am now deeply sorry I didn=E2=80=99t =
make the effort. (and a giant penance it would have been.) to attend. =
Others had told me that a woman was escorted out of the meeting amid =
shouts of =E2=80=9CShut Up and =E2=80=9CSit Down=E2=80=9D Thanks to =
Ruth=E2=80=99s email I have a clearer sense of the events.
=20
Anyone who sat silently with their ass glued to their seat while the =
shouting and escorting out was taking place shouldn=E2=80=99t shrink, in =
my opinion, from placing their collective bums on folding chairs in the =
Logos gym every Sunday morning while Doug channels his weekly sermon =
from R.L. Dabney. (Be sure to bring your wallets and pocket books for =
the offering.) In your silent assent you were cooperating/supporting the =
racist, sexist, homophobic, patriarchal agenda of Christ Church (pastor =
and communicants), or even more pathetically, falling prey to =
Doug=E2=80=99s purported charisma. Shame to you! You were handed a =
classic example of how dissent is silenced and yet, there you sat, =
either unwilling or unable to protest =E2=80=93 failing to get up and =
walk out yourself. It is my hope that none of you excuse your inaction =
under the ruse of not knowing how to respond to an awkward social =
situation, or wanting to avoid public embarrassment. That is pure =
baloney. Spineless is the kindest descriptions that comes to my mind =
=E2=80=93 closely followed by the term limousine liberal. And God =
knows, there have always been a plethora of those folks in university =
towns. YIKES!!!=20
=20
Rose Huskey
=20
And what=E2=80=99s with the bouncer stuff =E2=80=93 Doug traveling =
with his private security squad these days? Talk about delusional =
grandiosity. I=E2=80=99ll be on the look for the stretch limo next.
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<DIV><SPAN class=3D392032700-14122003>I assume that the Dougster will be =
demanding=20
a retraction from the Spokesman Review then, since your version differs=20
considerably from theres, Mr. Courtney.</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D392032700-14122003></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D392032700-14122003>Tom Hansen</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=3D392032700-14122003>Just another liberal =
elitist</SPAN></DIV>
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face=3DTahoma>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B>=20
vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]<B>On =
Behalf=20
Of </B>Dale Courtney<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 13, 2003 3:48=20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> vision2020@moscow.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: =
[Vision2020]=20
Apathetic Liberals<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Rose,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Hate to burst your =
bubble; but those=20
people who were shouting were <U>not</U> Christ Church members. It was =
all=20
video taped. One man in the back-center of the auditorium shouted =
for her=20
to "sit down and shut up". Mrs. Stoneman asked "are you a Christ =
Church=20
member" and he yelled "no!" Then that same man got =
up, walked down=20
to the front, and escorted her out. He was an older gentleman; =
unlikely=20
he is a bouncer (though he may have been one 40 years ago). =
</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>When she =
further said "the=20
public wants to know!", another non-CC man from the middle left said =
"we are=20
the public! Sit down and shut up!" </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Feel free to verify this =
with anyone=20
who was there -- or you can check the video.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>What Mrs. Stoneman needs =
is our=20
prayers, support, and sympathy. She's been thru hell (read thru all =
the=20
articles over at <A=20
=
href=3D"http://www.valuachild.com/">http://www.valuachild.com/</A> t=
o see=20
what she and her children have been thru). </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>And, yes, I wish you had =
been there=20
too. It would have been nice to meet you and Don at last.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Best,</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3>Dale</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3></FONT> </DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
<A title=3DDonaldH675@aol.com=20
href=3D"mailto:DonaldH675@aol.com">DonaldH675@aol.com</A> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dvision2020@moscow.com=20
href=3D"mailto:vision2020@moscow.com">vision2020@moscow.com</A> =
</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, December 13, =
2003=20
14:30</DIV>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [Vision2020] =
Apathetic=20
Liberals</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3>Dear Visionaries,</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3>Although I sent one of the earliest =E2=80=9CThanks but no =
thanks=E2=80=9D posts to=20
Doug=E2=80=99s invitation to attend his =E2=80=9CTown =
Meeting,=E2=80=9D I am now deeply sorry I=20
didn=E2=80=99t make the effort. (and a giant penance it would have =
been.) to=20
attend.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Others had =
told me that=20
a woman was escorted out of the meeting amid shouts of =E2=80=9CShut =
Up and =E2=80=9CSit=20
Down=E2=80=9D <SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Thanks =
to Ruth=E2=80=99s email=20
<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>I have a clearer =
sense of the=20
events.</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3>Anyone who sat silently with their ass glued to their seat =
while the=20
shouting and escorting out was taking place shouldn=E2=80=99t =
shrink, in my opinion,=20
from placing their collective bums on folding chairs in the Logos =
gym every=20
Sunday morning while Doug channels his weekly sermon from R.L. =
Dabney.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>(Be sure to bring your =
wallets and=20
pocket books for the offering.) In your silent assent you were=20
cooperating/supporting the racist, sexist, homophobic, patriarchal =
agenda of=20
<st1:place><st1:PlaceName>Christ</st1:PlaceName> =
<st1:PlaceType>Church=20
(pastor and communicants)</st1:PlaceType></st1:place>, or even more=20
pathetically, falling prey to Doug=E2=80=99s purported charisma. =
Shame to you!<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>You were handed a classic =
example of=20
how dissent is silenced and yet, there you sat, either unwilling or =
unable=20
to protest =E2=80=93 failing to get up and walk out yourself.<SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>It is my hope that none of =
you=20
excuse your inaction under the ruse of not knowing how to respond to =
an=20
awkward social situation, or wanting to avoid public=20
embarrassment.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> That is pure=20
baloney</SPAN>.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN>Spineless is=20
the kindest descriptions that comes to my mind =E2=80=93 closely =
followed by the=20
term limousine liberal.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>And God knows, there have =
always been=20
a plethora of those folks in university towns. YIKES!!! </FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3>Rose Huskey</FONT></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><o:p><FONT=20
face=3D"Times New Roman" size=3D3> </FONT></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT =
face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
size=3D3>And what=E2=80=99s with the bouncer stuff =E2=80=93 Doug =
traveling with his private=20
security squad these days?<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: yes"> =
</SPAN>Talk=20
about delusional grandiosity.<SPAN style=3D"mso-spacerun: =
yes"> =20
</SPAN>I=E2=80=99ll be on the look for the stretch limo=20
next.</FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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