OFFLINE: Re: [Vision2020] Re: What's the difference?
debismith@moscow.com
debismith@moscow.com
Mon, 8 Dec 2003 19:43:10 GMT
>You bet I did, Nate, and am doing it again with yours. From past experience
with folks who disagree with my public and open sentiments, it is best to nip
in the bud the harrassment that can take place when folks decide to respond
outside the discussion forum. Yes, we have been asked in the past (and asked
one another) to take our religious discussions off-line. Seems to me, however,
that Doug Wilson and his followers have assisted in keeping this discussion
open and on-line. Something about goose, gander, and sauce comes to mind....I
don't want to talk to any of Doug's folks privately, and we have nothing to say
to one another without witnesses. Please pass it on---I'm publically stating
here that if you don't want unsolicited personal posts you send to me appearing
in V2020, don't send 'em. I promise to only respond publically, having nothing
to say to you that I don't want others to hear.
Cordially,
Debi
You're taking an offline email public? Slick work.
>
> NDW
>
> debismith@moscow.com wrote:
>
> >>Lucy, I don't know you, care what your beliefs are, or hate you. You were
not
> >>
> >>
> >even on my radar until you chose to contact me personally---I would never do
> >that to you without an invitation (which you have now given me). If you
review
> >my posts, you will see I have not used the dreaded "H" word--I don't even
hate
> >Doug. I dislike the things he stands for, I dislike his tactics, and I
dislike
> >that folks like you feel it necessary to contact me on his behalf. Nowhere
in
> >my posts did I indicate that I would force you to wear the letter "I". That
was
> >Doug's suggestion. A careful reading of posts would make your tirade more
> >credible and accurate. Try to do that prior to e-mailing me again. In fact,
> >don't e-mail me personally, and I won't e-mail you. Let's keep the
discussion
> >on the V2020 list---we have nothing private to say to one another. But,
thanks
> >for the "heads up" regarding how you feel about those who dissent with Doug.
> >Debi Robinson-Smith
> >
> > Ms. Smith,
> >
> >
> >>I don't know you, never spoken with you, and can't
> >>remember why you hate me. You're certainly free
> >>to *hate* all things Wilson; however, I find it rather
> >>strange that you would hate an entire group of people
> >>without even a discussion. To me, it smacks of ignorance.
> >>
> >>I'm not fond of the KKK because of their hatred of
> >>people of color, their ignorance, their bitterness,
> >>and because they lump people together based on
> >>the color of their skin. I don't hate them. I pity them
> >>and I take every opportunity to educate them. It's
> >>difficult because they tend to be ignorant and small
> >>minded. And like you...their mind is solidly closed.
> >>Could you perhaps tell me how you differ
> >>from them in your hatred of all things Wilson...including
> >>me? I don't intend to wear an "I" to satisfy your hatred
> >>of me. If you wouldn't mind walking around with a sheet
> >>on, it would help so I could keep the kids away from
> >>you. I'd rather they didn't learn your brand of hate.
> >>
> >>I'm not fond of hypocrites either.
> >>
> >>Lucy Zoe Jones
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>-----Original Message-----
> >>From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]
> >>On Behalf Of debismith@moscow.com
> >>Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2003 6:07 AM
> >>To: vision2020@moscow.com; drosmith@wsu.edu
> >>Subject: [Vision2020] Summons to Town Hall
> >>
> >>
> >>Thanks again for the repeated invite, Doug. I still decline. I do not
> >>believe you have
> >>anything new to add--yes, my mind is firmly closed in regards to any
> >>additional
> >>defense you might have, or "answers" to any questions you might be
> >>asked. I may be
> >>a "liberal" (whatever that means), but I am capable of recognizing the
> >>difference
> >>between a discussion and another Wilson Rant. I've seen you in action
> >>before, and
> >>am simply not interested in a repeat of the refrain "Jesus loves Doug,
> >>this I know
> >>because his bible tells him so".
> >>
> >>Those of us who are circulating the Not In Our Town sign-up sheet are
> >>from a variety
> >>of groups and interests, all of whom find your intoerance for those not
> >>of your
> >>persuasion both stupid and annoying. I do owe you a note of thanks,
> >>however.
> >>Through your creative revision of history you have inadvertantly
> >>introduced me to a
> >>whole new set of friends. While you have been busily scrambling to
> >>explain yourself
> >>in every newspaper on the Palouse, I have been enjoying the company of:
> >>Christians of many stripes, Buddhists, Wiccans, Pagans, Lesbians, Gays,
> >>Historians,
> >>Feminist Women of Color, Birkenstock Wearing Old Hippies, and Balding
> >>Homer
> >>Simpson Look-Alikes.
> >>
> >>I'm having great time, and all without your narrow Biblical
> >>interpretations, your
> >>"standards", and especially without your "comedy". I'm finding the
> >>company of these
> >>folks full of laughter, intelligent conversation, creativity, and joy.
> >>
> >>So, thanks for being the narrow, rigid, lock-stepping bunch you are---it
> >>introduced me
> >>to a delightful crowd!
> >>
> >>By the way, your personal selection of the letter "I" to mark your group
> >>is not a bad
> >>idea. I'm not in favor of this type of singling-out behavior, but
> >>whatever blows your
> >>skirt up! It might be handy to be able to identify, through the letter
> >>"I" for "idiotic", your
> >>entire group.
> >>
> >>Avoiding you like the plague, having lots of laughs (partly at your
> >>expense),
> >>
> >>Debi Robinson-Smith
> >>
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