[Vision2020] Gay High School: response to Donovan Arnold
Donovan Arnold
donovanarnold@hotmail.com
Sun, 03 Aug 2003 01:59:10 -0700
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<P>Mr. Stambler said:</P>
<P>"1. They should stop being gay, it's a sin. </P>
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<P>2. They should pray about what to do next. </P>
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<P>3. They should not be discriminated against for their sins." </P>
<P> Let's see how it sounds to a gay person:</P>
<P>"1. They should stop being straight, it's a sin. </P>
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<P>2. They should pray about what to do next. </P>
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<P>3. They should not be discriminated against for their sins. <BR></P>
<P>Sounds pretty damn stupid doesn't it?</P>
<P>Donovan J Arnold</P></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>>From: Douglas Stambler <CCM_MOSCOW@YAHOO.COM>
<DIV></DIV>>To: Donovan Arnold <DONOVANARNOLD@HOTMAIL.COM>, vision2020@moscow.com
<DIV></DIV>>Subject: [Vision2020] Gay High School: response to Donovan Arnold
<DIV></DIV>>Date: Sat, 2 Aug 2003 12:38:40 -0700 (PDT)
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<DIV></DIV>>1. They should stop being gay, it's a sin.
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<DIV></DIV>>2. They should pray about what to do next.
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<DIV></DIV>>3. They should not be discriminated against for their
<DIV></DIV>>sins.
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<DIV></DIV>>-Douglas Stambler
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<DIV></DIV>>--- Donovan Arnold <DONOVANARNOLD@HOTMAIL.COM>wrote:
<DIV></DIV>> > This is Funny.
<DIV></DIV>> >
<DIV></DIV>> > When gay people want to be treated the same they get
<DIV></DIV>> > criticized for it. When
<DIV></DIV>> > they don't, they get criticized for it. Where should
<DIV></DIV>> > they go?
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<DIV></DIV>> > Donovan J Arnold
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<DIV></DIV>> > >From: Tim Lohrmann <TIMLOHR@YAHOO.COM>
<DIV></DIV>> > >To: vision2020@moscow.com
<DIV></DIV>> > >Subject: [Vision2020] NYC Hispanics: Gay High
<DIV></DIV>> > School=segregation
<DIV></DIV>> > >Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 11:58:39 -0700 (PDT)
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> > >Hispanic Ministers: Gay High School is Segregation
<DIV></DIV>> > >By IKIMULISA LIVINGSTON and STEPHANIE GASKELL
<DIV></DIV>> > >New York Post
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> > >August 1, 2003 -- Amid praise yesterday from the
<DIV></DIV>> > City
<DIV></DIV>> > >Council for the nation's first gay high school, a
<DIV></DIV>> > >group of Hispanic ministers threatened to sue over
<DIV></DIV>> > it,
<DIV></DIV>> > >calling the campus a new kind of "segregation."
<DIV></DIV>> > >City Council Speaker Gifford Miller yesterday
<DIV></DIV>> > >commended the city Department of Education for
<DIV></DIV>> > >planning to open the school next month with 100
<DIV></DIV>> > >students, which was first reported in The Post on
<DIV></DIV>> > >Monday.
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> > >"Every child in New York City has the right to be
<DIV></DIV>> > >educated in an environment that is safe and
<DIV></DIV>> > >supportive," Miller said. "That right has been
<DIV></DIV>> > denied
<DIV></DIV>> > >to far too many kids who face anti-gay harassment
<DIV></DIV>> > and
<DIV></DIV>> > >abuse."
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> > >The Harvey Milk HS, at 2 Astor Place, will open for
<DIV></DIV>> > >gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender students.
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> > >It was established to prevent physical and mental
<DIV></DIV>> > >abuse that many of the gay students experience in
<DIV></DIV>> > the
<DIV></DIV>> > >regular school setting.
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> > >Bronx minister and state Sen. Ruben Diaz yesterday
<DIV></DIV>> > >questioned the need for the school and threatened
<DIV></DIV>> > >legal action, as did state Conservative Party boss
<DIV></DIV>> > >Mike Long.
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> > >"The issue is whether taxpayers' money should go
<DIV></DIV>> > >toward segregated schools and promoting the gay
<DIV></DIV>> > >lifestyle," Long said.
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> > >Diaz said that instead of separating homosexual
<DIV></DIV>> > >students, schools should teach tolerance.
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> > >"They should teach them to love each other and not
<DIV></DIV>> > be
<DIV></DIV>> > >segregated," Diaz said.
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> > >"People with special needs handicapped, blind or
<DIV></DIV>> > >[those] with other physical handicaps need
<DIV></DIV>> > special
<DIV></DIV>> > >schools," Diaz said. "Normal people should compete
<DIV></DIV>> > in
<DIV></DIV>> > >the same schools."
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> > >Diaz was one of a dozen or so Hispanic clergy
<DIV></DIV>> > members
<DIV></DIV>> > >who opposed the school and are analyzing whether
<DIV></DIV>> > it's
<DIV></DIV>> > >legal.
<DIV></DIV>> > >
<DIV></DIV>> > >If they believe the school is unconstitutional, the
<DIV></DIV>> > >ministers will file suit to block the September
<DIV></DIV>> > >opening.
<DIV></DIV>> > >
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