[Vision2020] Disturbing trends

[Bill London]

S-
I do not understand why you are apologizing.
What you said is pretty obvious.  Words have consequences.  Contrversial
words can have serious consequences.  Ask Trent Lott about that (his one
sentence showing a love of pre-civil rights racial relationships cost
him).
BL

Scott Dredge wrote:

> I offer my sincerest apologies to every member of this
> list for my innappropriate statement and lack of
> sensitivity regarding this topic.  I will be much more
> careful with my wording in my future posts.
>
> Also, for the record, my opinion is exclusively my own
> and DOES NOT necessarily reflect the views or opinions
> of my employer.
>
> -Scott
>
> --- John Danahy <jdanahy@turbonet.com> wrote:
> > In all the discussion so far on this list there has
> > been no more
> > frightening statement than that of Scott below.  The
> > very idea that
> > anyone could pay a price for saying anything that is
> > politically
> > unpopular is to desecrate the very patriotism that
> > the voluntary
> > military has fought and died for.  It is such
> > statements, and the vile
> > corruption of patriotism that has been co-opted by
> > the Bush
> > administration, that I am, not anti-war, but
> > anti-Bush.
> > John
> > jdanahy@turbonet.com
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com
> > [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]
> > On Behalf Of Scott Dredge
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 1:45 PM
> > To: vision2020@moscow.com
> > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Disturbing trends
> >
> > The government hasn't done anything to limit their
> > speech.  These people have said things that are
> > policitically unpopular and now they're paying a
> > price.  The same thing happened to Dr. Laura when
> > she
> > made unpopular statements about homosexuals.
> >
> > -Scott
> >
> > --- Carl Westberg <carlwestberg846@hotmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Last week, the president of the baseball Hall of
> > > Fame cancelled a planned
> > > 15th anniversary celebration of the movie Bull
> > > Durham because he did not
> > > like the fact that Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon
> > > have spoken against the
> > > war.  Never mind the fact that, according to
> > > Robbins, all he planned on
> > > talking about was baseball and the making of the
> > > film.  He had no intention
> > > of saying anything about the war.  In today's
> > > Spokesman is a report that
> > > actress Janeane Garofalo's scheduled new
> > television
> > > series may be doomed.
> > > She has spoken against the war and criticized
> > > President Bush, and the
> > > network appears to be folding to pressure to keep
> > > her show off the air, due
> > > to her audacity.  A couple of pages later in the
> > > same section is the story
> > > of Ed Gernon, the producer of the CBS miniseries
> > > "Hitler, The Rise of Evil."
> > >   After more than a decade with the company, he's
> > > been fired for statements
> > > he made regarding the project and President Bush.
> > > His crime?  This quote:
> > > "It basically boils down to an entire nation
> > gripped
> > > by fear, who ultimately
> > > chose to give up their civil rights and plunged
> > the
> > > whole world into war.  I
> > > can't think of a better time to examine this
> > history
> > > than now."  And one of
> > > the presumed rights our troops are fighting for in
> > > Iraq is the freedom of
> > > speech.
> >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > >                 Carl
> > > Westberg Jr.
>
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