[Vision2020] Disturbing trends

Scott Dredge sdredge@yahoo.com
Wed, 16 Apr 2003 22:10:15 -0700 (PDT)


I offer my sincerest apologies to every member of this
list for my innappropriate statement and lack of
sensitivity regarding this topic.  I will be much more
careful with my wording in my future posts.

Also, for the record, my opinion is exclusively my own
and DOES NOT necessarily reflect the views or opinions
of my employer.

-Scott

--- John Danahy <jdanahy@turbonet.com> wrote:
> In all the discussion so far on this list there has
> been no more
> frightening statement than that of Scott below.  The
> very idea that
> anyone could pay a price for saying anything that is
> politically
> unpopular is to desecrate the very patriotism that
> the voluntary
> military has fought and died for.  It is such
> statements, and the vile
> corruption of patriotism that has been co-opted by
> the Bush
> administration, that I am, not anti-war, but
> anti-Bush.  
> John
> jdanahy@turbonet.com
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com
> [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]
> On Behalf Of Scott Dredge
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 1:45 PM
> To: vision2020@moscow.com
> Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Disturbing trends
> 
> The government hasn't done anything to limit their
> speech.  These people have said things that are
> policitically unpopular and now they're paying a
> price.  The same thing happened to Dr. Laura when
> she
> made unpopular statements about homosexuals.
> 
> -Scott
> 
> --- Carl Westberg <carlwestberg846@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> > 
> > Last week, the president of the baseball Hall of
> > Fame cancelled a planned 
> > 15th anniversary celebration of the movie Bull
> > Durham because he did not 
> > like the fact that Tim Robbins and Susan Sarandon
> > have spoken against the 
> > war.  Never mind the fact that, according to
> > Robbins, all he planned on 
> > talking about was baseball and the making of the
> > film.  He had no intention 
> > of saying anything about the war.  In today's
> > Spokesman is a report that 
> > actress Janeane Garofalo's scheduled new
> television
> > series may be doomed.  
> > She has spoken against the war and criticized
> > President Bush, and the 
> > network appears to be folding to pressure to keep
> > her show off the air, due 
> > to her audacity.  A couple of pages later in the
> > same section is the story 
> > of Ed Gernon, the producer of the CBS miniseries
> > "Hitler, The Rise of Evil." 
> >   After more than a decade with the company, he's
> > been fired for statements 
> > he made regarding the project and President Bush. 
> > His crime?  This quote:  
> > "It basically boils down to an entire nation
> gripped
> > by fear, who ultimately 
> > chose to give up their civil rights and plunged
> the
> > whole world into war.  I 
> > can't think of a better time to examine this
> history
> > than now."  And one of 
> > the presumed rights our troops are fighting for in
> > Iraq is the freedom of 
> > speech.                                           
>  
> >                         
> >                                                   
>  
> >                 Carl 
> > Westberg Jr.

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