[Vision2020] Disturbing trends

[Tim Lohrmann]

Scott,
    I thought you were kiddin' around.
    But if not, Bill's right, lighten up. 
    Nothing the least bit offensive that I can see.
   TL





--- Bill London <london@moscow.com> wrote:
> S-
> I do not understand why you are apologizing.
> What you said is pretty obvious.  Words have
> consequences.  Contrversial
> words can have serious consequences.  Ask Trent Lott
> about that (his one
> sentence showing a love of pre-civil rights racial
> relationships cost
> him).
> BL
> 
> Scott Dredge wrote:
> 
> > I offer my sincerest apologies to every member of
> this
> > list for my innappropriate statement and lack of
> > sensitivity regarding this topic.  I will be much
> more
> > careful with my wording in my future posts.
> >
> > Also, for the record, my opinion is exclusively my
> own
> > and DOES NOT necessarily reflect the views or
> opinions
> > of my employer.
> >
> > -Scott
> >
> > --- John Danahy <jdanahy@turbonet.com> wrote:
> > > In all the discussion so far on this list there
> has
> > > been no more
> > > frightening statement than that of Scott below. 
> The
> > > very idea that
> > > anyone could pay a price for saying anything
> that is
> > > politically
> > > unpopular is to desecrate the very patriotism
> that
> > > the voluntary
> > > military has fought and died for.  It is such
> > > statements, and the vile
> > > corruption of patriotism that has been co-opted
> by
> > > the Bush
> > > administration, that I am, not anti-war, but
> > > anti-Bush.
> > > John
> > > jdanahy@turbonet.com
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: vision2020-admin@moscow.com
> > > [mailto:vision2020-admin@moscow.com]
> > > On Behalf Of Scott Dredge
> > > Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 1:45 PM
> > > To: vision2020@moscow.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Vision2020] Disturbing trends
> > >
> > > The government hasn't done anything to limit
> their
> > > speech.  These people have said things that are
> > > policitically unpopular and now they're paying a
> > > price.  The same thing happened to Dr. Laura
> when
> > > she
> > > made unpopular statements about homosexuals.
> > >
> > > -Scott
> > >
> > > --- Carl Westberg <carlwestberg846@hotmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Last week, the president of the baseball Hall
> of
> > > > Fame cancelled a planned
> > > > 15th anniversary celebration of the movie Bull
> > > > Durham because he did not
> > > > like the fact that Tim Robbins and Susan
> Sarandon
> > > > have spoken against the
> > > > war.  Never mind the fact that, according to
> > > > Robbins, all he planned on
> > > > talking about was baseball and the making of
> the
> > > > film.  He had no intention
> > > > of saying anything about the war.  In today's
> > > > Spokesman is a report that
> > > > actress Janeane Garofalo's scheduled new
> > > television
> > > > series may be doomed.
> > > > She has spoken against the war and criticized
> > > > President Bush, and the
> > > > network appears to be folding to pressure to
> keep
> > > > her show off the air, due
> > > > to her audacity.  A couple of pages later in
> the
> > > > same section is the story
> > > > of Ed Gernon, the producer of the CBS
> miniseries
> > > > "Hitler, The Rise of Evil."
> > > >   After more than a decade with the company,
> he's
> > > > been fired for statements
> > > > he made regarding the project and President
> Bush.
> > > > His crime?  This quote:
> > > > "It basically boils down to an entire nation
> > > gripped
> > > > by fear, who ultimately
> > > > chose to give up their civil rights and
> plunged
> > > the
> > > > whole world into war.  I
> > > > can't think of a better time to examine this
> > > history
> > > > than now."  And one of
> > > > the presumed rights our troops are fighting
> for in
> > > > Iraq is the freedom of
> > > > speech.
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > >                 Carl
> > > > Westberg Jr.
> >
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