[CLC-Discussion] Secured creditor

Andrea Fair amf at fairconstructionliens.com
Wed Oct 3 06:28:38 PDT 2012


I could be wrong but I would imagine there is language in the lien and/or bond statutes that specifically uses the word “security.”  If so, then I would argue that a bond claim is a secured claim and the legislature intended for it to be.


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How about a bond holder?  I am making a performance bond claim against a surety in liquidation for money damages and they ask on their proof of claim form if I am a secured creditor.  I answered yes and attached the bond as the security agreement, but received a letter from their attorney saying a bond is not a security agreement but an “insurance policy”, therefore my claim is unsecured.  They cited no authority for the statement.  They said I will have an opportunity later to object to that classification if I feel otherwise.  Anyone know the answer?

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In bankruptcy cases, a lien holder is deemed a secured creditor even prior to judgment



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Subject: [CLC-Discussion] Secured creditor
I have a question about secured creditors.  Is a construction lien holder a secured creditor?  I don’t think so until there is a judgment, but can’t find a statutory or case law basis.  I appreciate any help.

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