[WSBARP] IN SEARCH OF LIFE SUSTAINING LIVING WILL TEMPLATE

Fern Herbert fern at zenith-lawgroup.com
Fri Sep 30 07:09:06 PDT 2022


Hello All,

Does anyone have a template for a Living Will where the client wants life sustaining measures even if terminal. Dealing with a situation where the only close relative who could assist to make decisions is herself disabled, and client wants to make sure that she is not put to sleep when the time comes simply because she is old. I used to have a template with language for such clients but can't seem to find it.
Can anyone help?
Much appreciated.



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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Question about when judgments become liens against the homestead


That's an interesting thought (death terminates the homestead).  My practice area was bankruptcy, and there the status of the date of filing bankruptcy was important.  Not sure if probate courts follow similar rules, or even if they determine secured and unsecured claims.

But there is the award in lieu of homestead, or whatever it is called now.  I would question how that factors in against judgment creditors, recorded or otherwise. If the homestead does terminate on death maybe something remains in the form of the beneficiary homestead rights.  Something for the OP to look at.

Kary L. Krismer
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On 9/29/2022 10:00 AM, Mark Anderson wrote:

So, here’s a thought.  PR is trying to sell the former homestead.  Now dead, the owner does not use the property as a residence.  The homestead no longer exists.



In my current view (subject to counterarguments), the judgment liens attach to the whole of the property upon the owner’s death, so long as the requirements of RCW 4.56.190-200 have been met.



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Subject: [WSBARP] Question about when judgments become liens against the homestead





I am dealing with my first probate estate where the decedent had outstanding judgments. The PR is trying to sell the former homestead and the title company has found 4 judgments they say must be paid before the sale. The sale price exceeds the homestead exemption for the county and all the judgments together are less than that excess value. I'm trying to confirm the PR actually must pay off these debts based on the current status of the judgments, whether creditor claims are filed or not.



Are all of the following judgments liens against the homestead property? I am looking at RCW 6.13.090 (not sure if RCW 4.56.200 applies to the homestead).



One judgment was entered in the superior court of the county where the real estate is located.  I think RCW 6.13.090 requires this to be filed with the county recording officer so I don't think it is a lien on the homestead.



One judgment was entered in the District Court of the county where the real property is located and that judgment was then filed with the county recording officer of the same county. I think RCW 6.13.090 says this one is a lien on the homestead.



Two judgments were entered in the District Court of the county where the real property is located. I think RCW 4.56.200(4) and (5) require them to be filed in the superior court and RCW 6.13.090 requires them to be filed with the county, so I don't think a lien has commenced.



As a follow up question, if there is a lien, does the creditor have to file a creditor claim? I think the answer is no, but RCW 11.40.130 is not completely clear.



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