[WSBARP] Why Legal - Not Standard Size? - REETA Kicked Back As Not Legal Size.

[Rob Rowley]

What is DOR’s rationale for legal size when zero of our clients have legal
size paper at their homes/business when we email them documents to print,
sign and return?



Also, why they want at least one wet ink signature on the REETA when
everything is being pushed to e-signatures on everything?



A nameless DOR bureaucrat or some of the local county Auditors wanting to
make their lives easier?  Any relief coming in the near future?







*From:* wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>
*On Behalf Of *samuel at meylerlegal.com
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 15, 2022 11:45 AM
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*Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] REETA Kicked Back As Not Legal Size.



Similarly, I use eRecording Partners Network (ePN) for e-recording and have
not had an issue with REETAs printed an scanned in letter size.  I also
submit docs for e-recording directly through the King County Recorder’s
Office online portal rather than going through a third-party and they
accept REETAs printed and scanned in letter size when submitted through
their portal, *for now*.





*Samuel M. Meyler*

*Meyler Legal, PLLC *

1700 Westlake Ave. N., Ste. 200

Seattle, Washington 98109

*Tel:*  206.876.7770

*Fax:*  206.876.7771

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The statutes appear to address only those documents that are presented for
recording and not documents ancillary to that process (such as a REETA).
Like Inge Fordham, I use Simplifile and don’t have to print anything on
legal size for submission.




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*On Behalf Of *Rob Rowley
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I have never had a package ever get kicked back for not being legal size.
Spokane County always accepts.



I found the citations. Legal is the max size – not only choice.







*RCW 36.18.010 <http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=36.18.010>*

*Auditor's fees.*

County auditors or recording officers shall collect the following fees for
their official services:

(1) For recording instruments, for the first page eight and one-half by
fourteen inches or less, five dollars; for each additional page eight and
one-half by fourteen inches or less, one dollar. The fee for recording
multiple transactions contained in one instrument will be calculated for
each transaction requiring separate indexing as required under RCW
*65.04.050* <http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=65.04.050> as
follows: The fee for each title or transaction is the same fee as the first
page of any additional recorded document; the fee for additional pages is
the same fee as for any additional pages for any recorded document; the fee
for the additional pages may be collected only once and may not be
collected for each title or transaction;





*RCW 65.04.045 <http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=65.04.045>*

*Recorded instruments**—**Requirements**—**Content restrictions**—**Form.*

(1) When any instrument is presented to a county auditor or recording
officer for recording, the first page of the instrument shall contain:

(a) A top margin of at least three inches and a one-inch margin on the
bottom and sides, except that an instrument may be recorded if a minor
portion of a notary seal, incidental writing, or minor portion of a
signature extends beyond the margins;

(b) The top left-hand side of the page shall contain the name and address
to whom the instrument will be returned;

(c) The title or titles, or type or types, of the instrument to be recorded
indicating the kind or kinds of documents or transactions contained therein
immediately below the three-inch margin at the top of the page. The auditor
or recording officer shall be required to index only the title or titles
captioned on the document;

(d) Reference numbers of documents assigned or released with reference to
the document page number where additional references can be found, if
applicable;

(e) The names of the grantor(s) and grantee(s), as defined under RCW
*65.04.015* <http://app.leg.wa.gov/RCW/default.aspx?cite=65.04.015>, with
reference to the document page number where additional names are located,
if applicable;

(f) An abbreviated legal description of the property, and for purposes of
this subsection, "abbreviated legal description of the property" means lot,
block, plat, or section, township, range, and quarter/quarter section, and
reference to the document page number where the full legal description is
included, if applicable;

(g) The assessor's property tax parcel or account number set forth
separately from the legal description or other text.

(2) All pages of the document shall be on sheets of paper of a weight and
color capable of producing a legible image that are not larger than
fourteen inches long and eight and one-half inches wide with text printed
or written in eight point type or larger. All text within the document must
be of sufficient color and clarity to ensure that when the text is imaged
all text is readable. Further, all pages presented for recording must have
at minimum a one-inch margin on the top, bottom, and sides for all pages
except page one, except that an instrument may be recorded if a minor
portion of a notary seal, incidental writing, or minor portion of a
signature extends beyond the margins, be prepared in ink color capable of
being imaged, and have all seals legible and capable of being imaged. No
attachments, except firmly attached bar code or address labels, may be
affixed to the pages.





Attorney Robert R Rowley

W: (509) 252-5074

M: (509) 994-1143

F: (509) 928-3084

rob at rowleylegal.com





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*On Behalf Of *Pam Rohr
*Sent:* Friday, February 11, 2022 1:12 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] REETA Kicked Back As Not Legal Size.



Spokane County requires the same.  If you would like some legal paper, come
on by and I will help you out.



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*On Behalf Of *Rob Rowley
*Sent:* Friday, February 11, 2022 12:38 PM
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*Subject:* [WSBARP] REETA Kicked Back As Not Legal Size.



What is the citation for convincing very small rural county they have to
join the 21st century? [I don’t even thing I have legal size in my office
anymore.]



*“Good afternoon, I received your documents for recording, unfortunately
the county will not accept the REETA unless it is legal size.  Thank you”*





Robert R. Rowley

Attorney & Counselor At Law

p: 509.252.5074  m: 509.994.1143

f: 509.928.3084

a: 7 S Howard St, Ste 218, Spokane, WA 99201

w: rowleylegal.com  e: rob at rowleylegal.com

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