[WSBARP] WSBARP Digest, Vol 79, Issue 31
Stephen Whitehouse
swhite8893 at aol.com
Mon Apr 26 13:42:09 PDT 2021
Timothy, SB 5160 was signed by the governor on April 22. This is the bill that provides for attorneys for low income tenants. It also provides for some rent mitigation for landlords. It is very involved and there may be a lot of questions about how this gets implemented. My first thought was at what point does someone get an attorney and how long is this process going to take. I suspect you can figure an additional 2--4 weeks to process an eviction. I have only begun to study the thing. I would think there will be a court challenge as the state is very limited on what it can provide in public benefits. There are two primary law cases, the stadium financing case and the case challenging the ability of DSHS to go after child support for people not on assistance. As to HB 1236, the revisions to the LLTA, I believe it is on the governor's desk, the last I heard.
Steve
Stephen WhitehouseWhitehouse & Nichols, LLPP.O. Box 1273601 W. Railroad Ave. Shelton, Wa. 98684360-426-5885swhite8893 at aol.com
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1. Landlord/Tenant Legislation (Timothy Lehr)
2. Re: Limited Warranty Deed vs Quit Claim (Rod Harmon)
3. Re: Landlord/Tenant Legislation (Roger Moss)
4. Re: Limited Warranty Deed vs Quit Claim (Kary Krismer)
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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 16:00:38 +0000
From: Timothy Lehr <timothy at stileslaw.com>
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Happy Monday All,
Does anyone know the status of the bill(s) in Olympia regarding the RLLTA? Is there a good resource online for updates on these? I'm giving a talk to some realtors/property managers and looking to see what types of resources are out there that I can look at and point them towards.
Thank you,
Tim
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Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2021 16:02:12 +0000
From: Rod Harmon <rodharmon at msn.com>
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Dwight:
I know the statute barring claims after two years post-death. But a probate could be open for several years after death. What statute applies to bar claims that arise during administration? Say an injury on estate real property?
Rod Harmon
RODNEY T. HARMON
Attorney at Law
P.O. Box 1066
Bothell, WA 98041
Tel: (425) 402-7800
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I often laughed at the arguments between PRs as Grantors and purchasers about warranties. Over and over the PR would sign a standard form P&SA that agreed to provide a SWD, then the lawyer would invest the Estate's assets in hundreds of dollars of attorney's fees to force a quitclaim PR deed instead. The fees seemed wasteful considering the bar to claims against an estate. What good are the warranties after the estate is closed?
Carl's offer of a limited warranty for a PR deed is slightly better than the usual zero warranty. And, no different than a full warranty deed after the estate is closed.
Dwight A. Bickel
Real Property Title Advisor
Washington Title Professional
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The Rental Housing Association of Washington has undertaken a significant highly organized campaign in connection with the legislation. https://www.rhawa.org/ <https://www.rhawa.org/>.
Chris Benis and Christopher Cutting serve on the RHA board and can provide the latest harrowing detail on developments.
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> On Apr 26, 2021, at 9:00 AM, Timothy Lehr <timothy at stileslaw.com> wrote:
>
> Happy Monday All,
>
> Does anyone know the status of the bill(s) in Olympia regarding the RLLTA? Is there a good resource online for updates on these? I?m giving a talk to some realtors/property managers and looking to see what types of resources are out there that I can look at and point them towards.
>
> Thank you,
> Tim
>
> Timothy C. Lehr
> Attorney at Law
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Limited Warranty Deed vs Quit Claim
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I think you raise a valid argument about a warranty claim arising while
the case is open.? I'm not seeing an injury post-deed recording being a
concern.? Is there some tort liability that reaches prior owners of
property?? And if there is, I'm not seeing that a QCD would cut that off
because the tort claim wouldn't be based on a deed warranty.
There may be another underlying issue.? Are estate PR's authorized to
grant warranties?? I'm pretty sure bankruptcy trustees think they don't
have that authority (an issue I've never looked into).
Kary L. Krismer
206 723-2148
On 4/26/2021 9:02 AM, Rod Harmon wrote:
>
> Dwight:
>
> I know the statute barring claims after two years post-death. But a
> probate could be open for several years after death.? What statute
> applies to bar claims that arise during administration?? Say an injury
> on estate real property?
>
> Rod Harmon
>
> **
>
> *RODNEY T. HARMON*
>
> *Attorney at Law*
>
> P.O. Box 1066
>
> Bothell, WA?? 98041
>
> Tel:?? (425) 402-7800
>
> Fax:? (425) 458-9096
>
> www.rodharmon.com <http://www.rodharmon.com>
>
> rodharmon at msn.com <mailto:rodharmon at msn.com>
>
> *From:*wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com *On Behalf Of *Dwight Bickel
> *Sent:* Friday, April 23, 2021 12:35 PM
> *To:* WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [WSBARP] Limited Warranty Deed vs Quit Claim
>
> I often laughed at the arguments between PRs as Grantors and
> purchasers about warranties. Over and over the PR would sign a
> standard form P&SA that agreed to provide a SWD, then the lawyer would
> invest the Estate?s assets in hundreds of dollars of attorney?s fees
> to force a quitclaim PR deed instead. The fees seemed wasteful
> considering the bar to claims against an estate. What good are the
> warranties after the estate is closed?
>
> Carl?s offer of a limited warranty for a PR deed is slightly better
> than the usual zero warranty. And, no different than a full warranty
> deed after the estate is closed.
>
> Dwight A. Bickel
>
> Real Property Title Advisor
>
> Washington Title Professional
>
> Dwight at DwightBickel.com <mailto:Dwight at DwightBickel.com>
>
> https:/dwightbickel.com
>
> 206-484-1976
>
>
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