[WSBARP] Squatters

Paul Neumiller pneumiller at hotmail.com
Fri Apr 9 15:58:00 PDT 2021


Wow, the 14-day language is in the non-binding “whereas”  language of the moratorium.  So the AG is willing to cherry pick and use the 14-day “whereas” language but NOT abide by the holdover occupant “whereas” language.


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Craig -

Below is the "whereas" sections which I think speak to this question. However, I have heard that the "whereas" language is not binding, but only the language below the order that is binding on courts and the AGs Office.

It could be argued that these occupants do not occupy "lawfully" because the owner did not give permission for them to be on the property. But then again, if that were the case, all these occupants would have to do is point to the language that says it protects "individuals who "have had to move in with friends or family." So if these individuals had the permission from the previous tenant to move in with the previous tenant, there's an argument that their moving in was not "unlawful" and thus their occupancy is protected by the Moratorium. So, it just depends on whether or not the AG's Office decides to involve themselves and/or whether the Commissioner on the bench thinks that this situation falls into an exception. It's a pretty high risk to take.

 "WHEREAS, it is critical to protect tenants and residents of traditional dwellings from homelessness, as well as those who have lawfully occupied or resided in less traditional dwelling situations for 14 days or more, whether or not documented in a lease, including but not limited to roommates who share a home; long-term care facilities; transient housing in hotels and motels; “Airbnb’s”; motor homes; RVs; and camping areas; and

WHEREAS, due to the impacts of the pandemic, individuals and families have had to move in with friends or family, and college students have had to return to their parents’ home, for example, and such residents should be protected from eviction even though they are not documented in a lease. However, this order is not intended to permit occupants introduced into a dwelling who are not listed on the lease to remain or hold over after the tenant(s) of record permanently vacate the dwelling (“holdover occupant”), unless the landlord, property owner, or property manager (collectively, “landlord”) has accepted partial or full payment of rent, including payment in the form of labor, from the holdover occupant, or has formally or informally acknowledged the existence of a landlord-tenant relationship with the holdover occupant; and

On Fri, Apr 9, 2021 at 1:26 PM Charles Isely <charles at iselylaw.com<mailto:charles at iselylaw.com>> wrote:
Has the AG's position been adjudicated?


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I have had a couple cases like this. The AG’s Office said that if the occupants have been there for 14 days or more then the Moratorium protects them and you cannot remove them unless the owner officially terminates under one of the exceptions to the Proclamation.
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On Apr 9, 2021, at 12:31 PM, Craig Gourley <craig at glgmail.com<mailto:craig at glgmail.com>> wrote:

Listmates, I  think this may have been discussed before but I am old and forget things. Client has a rental in Skagit County. Tenant moves out but prior to leaving moves "guests" in who have pets and in intention of paying rent. Can she proceed with eviction or are squatters protected as well ?

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