[WSBARP] Porter v. Kirkendoll

John McCrady j.mccrady at pstitle.com
Thu Sep 26 16:24:34 PDT 2019


Here<http://www.courts.wa.gov/opinions/pdf/962146.pdf> it is

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All the slip opinion says is Porter v. Kirkendoll, Sept. 26, 2019, No. 96214-6.

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Can you give a cite to the case thanks

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Subject: [WSBARP] Porter v. Kirkendoll

Another rant from me about a Supreme Court case. If you think that practitioners shouldn't criticize court decisions directly in public, then this isn't for you. And it is only really for those who deal with real property timber trespass and waste claims.

Another head scratching decision from the Supreme Court today, Porter v. Kirkendoll. There is much analysis about torts and indemnification and so on, which seems right to me, but the part at the end discusses when the waste statute applies, with its added damages (attorney fees and expert fees, etc.), and when the timber trespass statute applies. Virtually any waste case that I have seen will involve the destruction to or removal of, in the words of the timber trespass statute, "cut down, girdle, or otherwise injure or carry off any tree, timber or shrub... ."  Maybe you have had a waste case that did not involve any of this, but I haven't seen one.

The problem is that the waste statute says that it applies when someone goes onto the property of another and removes timber, crops, etc, or wrongfully causes injury to the land... .But it also says, at the very end, it won't apply when the timber trespass applies.

So, the Supreme Court says that the first part of the waste statute about timber and so on, we just have to ignore that. The result will be that the waste statute is pared back about 95% in many cases.

Except for the first part of the waste statute, the part where it says that it applies to removal of timber, which, again, it decides to ignore,  the Supreme Court said that the two statutes could be reconciled, when each refers to removing timber, by the slightly different language in the timber trespass statute that says "carry off." The decision pretends to make that carry off language apply to all of the actions you can do to a tree, but it is clearly only disjunctive- cut down OR carry off any tree. Nonsense. The result is very difficult for practitioners - if the wrongdoer leaves the trees there, as opposed to carrying off the trees "a distance," then the waste statute applies? What distance? What if the log trucks are loaded when the injunction hits?

They do include in a footnote a reference to not deciding this issue as posed by a footnote in Gunn v. Riely, 185 Wn App 517, 525 n6, at their footnote 10, which is a pretty big issue. So, I guess, the only thing that they are really saying is that if there is no comprehensive property damage that includes damage to property and removal of timber, as Gunn said,  and which hasn't been decided one way or the other by either case, then the issue is, how far did they take the trees?

Saying that this was the intent of the Legislature just makes me say, Really? How about just admitting that the Legislature didn't think very clearly about this and the result is sort of a mess? Or, you could twist things into your conclusion that this is "the legislature's clear intent."

Again, Really?

This was a 9-0 decision.

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