[WSBARP] WSBARP Digest, Vol 61, Issue 3

Michael Brandt mbrandt at brandtlawgroup.com
Wed Oct 9 09:22:46 PDT 2019


Sangeeta:

The claimed citation is not correct.  There are cases where the percentage of votes required to amend the declaration to allow for rental caps was deemed insufficient, but the right to limit rentals exists.

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Sangeeta,

Do you happen to have a cite for this case?  In our HOA, we have a 30% rental cap.  The building across the street has no rental cap; consequently, most of the units are rentals and you have to be a full cash buyer as lenders won't lend on the individual condos.

Lisa

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Today's Topics:

   1. Condo rental (Sangeeta Saigal)
   2. Re: Condo rental (Bryce Dille)
   3. Re: Condo rental (Paul Neumiller)
   4. Re: Decree of Diss. with common address - title   company
      response (Bryce Dille)
   5. Re: Decree of Diss. with common address - title   company
      response (John McCrady)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2019 12:58:55 +0000
From: Sangeeta Saigal <attorney at sangeetasaigal.com<mailto:attorney at sangeetasaigal.com>>
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Good Morning,

Would very much appreciate assistance with the following:

A condo association in King County is stating that only 12 units can be a rental on the property.  If all slots are full then the owners need to wait until a slot opens.

I believe there was a Supreme Court decision recently that ruled that HOA?s cannot limit owners rights to their property in this manner.

Am I right?  Any other guidance on this issue?

Thanks,

Sangeeta

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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2019 16:12:15 +0000
From: Bryce Dille <Bryce at dillelaw.com<mailto:Bryce at dillelaw.com>>
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Condo rental
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The case you are referring to had to do with whether rent restriction was properly adopted and the court said it is proper to have a rent restriction if in the original condo declaration but if not the rent restrictions could only be imposed by an amendment to the declaration passed in accordance with the voting requirement of the declaration and the condo act which applied at that time RCW 64.34 etr seq

Bryce H. Dille?|?Attorney at Law
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Subject: [WSBARP] Condo rental

Good Morning,

Would very much appreciate assistance with the following:

A condo association in King County is stating that only 12 units can be a rental on the property.  If all slots are full then the owners need to wait until a slot opens.

I believe there was a Supreme Court decision recently that ruled that HOA?s cannot limit owners rights to their property in this manner.

Am I right?  Any other guidance on this issue?

Thanks,

Sangeeta

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Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2019 16:20:34 +0000
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FILMORE LLLP, a Washington limited liability limited partnership, Respondent,
v.
UNIT OWNERS ASSOCIATION OF CENTRE POINTE CONDOMINIUM, a Washington
nonprofit miscellaneous corporation, Appellant.????




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Subject: [WSBARP] Condo rental

Good Morning,

Would very much appreciate assistance with the following:

A condo association in King County is stating that only 12 units can be a rental on the property.  If all slots are full then the owners need to wait until a slot opens.

I believe there was a Supreme Court decision recently that ruled that HOA?s cannot limit owners rights to their property in this manner.

Am I right?  Any other guidance on this issue?

Thanks,

Sangeeta

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2019 16:22:15 +0000
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Decree of Diss. with common address - title
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My experience is no it will require either an amended decree with the legal in it or a quitclaim deed from one spouse to the other using the excise tax exemption of "pursuant to dissolution decree"

Bryce H. Dille | Attorney at Law
Dille Law, PLLC
P: 360-350-0270 | F: 844-210-4503
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From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> On Behalf Of Josh Grant
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Subject: [WSBARP] Decree of Diss. with common address - title company response

I have a client who is selling her house.  The title shows to H&W. Decree of dissolution awarded it to client but they used a common address and not a legal address in the decree.
Will most title companies be satisfied with that?
Joshua F. Grant
[advocates]
P. O. Box 619
Wilbur, WA 99185
509 647 5578
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2019 09:27:54 -0700
From: John McCrady <j.mccrady at pstitle.com<mailto:j.mccrady at pstitle.com>>
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Absent unusual circumstances, I would accept the decree as sufficient to pass title.

John McCrady
Counsel
Puget Sound Title Company
5350 Orchard Street West
University Place WA 98467
253-476-5721
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From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> [mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>] On Behalf Of Josh Grant
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Subject: [WSBARP] Decree of Diss. with common address - title company response

I have a client who is selling her house.  The title shows to H&W. Decree of dissolution awarded it to client but they used a common address and not a legal address in the decree.
Will most title companies be satisfied with that?
Joshua F. Grant
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P. O. Box 619
Wilbur, WA 99185
509 647 5578



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