[WSBARP] [WSBAPT] Update on Changes to the RPPT Listservs

Tue Mar 19 10:02:18 PDT 2019

Hello Listservers:

I received an inquiry about the decision to move the Listservs to a members
only model with respect to certain emeritus members such as retired
attorneys, law professors, and others.

The Executive Committee had a lengthy debate about creating some sort of
emeritus member status for the Listserves and ultimately decided not to
proceed in that direction.  There were a multitude of reasons for this
decision.

First, the administration of such a process would be impractical.
 Creating an emeritus status for just the Listservs would require a host of
technical changes to the login credentials to create a "Listserv only"
login.  Further it would require a manual process of checking whether those
requesting emeritus status were members were in fact former members of the
bar as well as deciding which statuses (there is no emeritus status with
WSBA) would qualify for emeritus status.  This process would grow
exponentially as the year go by and more and more practitioners continue to
retire.

The Executive Committee was also concerned that granting emeritus status to
certain non-members could bring up questions of fairness over
participation. While a number of section members expressed their support
for the emeritus status, a number of members all expressed disapproval that
non-members were able to gain member benefits.   Moreover, there is no
ready criteria for determining which Listserv participants qualified as
emeritus and which did not.

Lastly, the Executive Committee reasoned that emeritus members could still
participate in the Listserv simply by paying the $25 section membership
dues.  Emeritus members would not need to pay full bar dues, only the RPPT
section member dues to be considered section members.  While emeritus
members participation in the Listserv could help section members who use
the Listserv, the Executive Committee believes that the benefit of
participating in the Listserv also runs to the emeritus member, connecting
them to the world of active practitioners, and helping emeritus members
stay engaged with the practice of law.

I hope this helps to explain and clarify the Executive Committee's decision
on this point.

Kind regards,
Michael Safren
Web Editor, RPPT section

On Tue, Mar 19, 2019 at 9:27 AM Paul Neumiller <pneumiller at hotmail.com>
wrote:

> Michael, thank you for the information.  How did the section leadership
> decide how to handle the membership requirement for those individuals who
> would be beneficial to the listservs, such as retired attorneys, senior
> title officers, and law professors?  Considering the many list-serv members
> who chimed in that they wanted the listserv to retain such valuable
> listserv members who are not members of the section, surely the section
> leadership addressed the issue.
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> *From:* wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <
> wsbapt-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> *On Behalf Of *Michael Safren
> *Sent:* Monday, March 18, 2019 10:40 PM
> *To:* WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>; WSBA
> Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> *Subject:* [WSBAPT] Update on Changes to the RPPT Listservs
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> Hello Fellow Listservs:
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> I wanted to provide you all with an update on recent changes to the RPPT
> Listservs (both the Probate and Trust and the Real Property Listservs).
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> The RPPT Executive Committee voted to move the Listservs from an open
> subscriber model, where anyone could subscribe and participate in the
> Listserv to a members only model, where only RPPT section members could
> participate in the Listserv.
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> This transition will be accomplished via a two fold change. First, the
> online resources to access the subscription email addresses, archives, and
> Listserv guidelines, rules, and etiquette have all been moved behind the
> member login page on the wsbarppt.com
> <https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwsbarppt.com&data=02%7C01%7C%7C11d0c8e40ee148e1d4e308d6ac2e2778%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636885711561184044&sdata=l1jhOgmQ9eJgcHS10t%2FkXkcgc86otozy8QYJixpb4d0%3D&reserved=0>
> website.  This Listserv resources page can be found by clicking on the For
> Members tab and require your RPPT login credentials.  This will prevent
> non-members from accessing the Listserv.
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> The second change will be to ask subscribers to re-validate their
> subscription by going back to the Listserv page to re-subscribe, which will
> require login credentials that only section members possess.  Many of you
> may have already received notices asking you to re-subscribe or to
> re-validate your subscriptions.  If you have not yet re-validated your
> subscription, please keep an eye out for an upcoming message inviting you
> to re-validate your subscription.
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> We hope that these changes will improve the Listerv experience for users
> and that Listserv members will experience only minor disruption as we
> implement these changes.  If you experience any problems with the Listserv,
> please let me know and I'll do my best to resolve any Listserv issues.
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> Kind regards,
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> Michael Safren
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> Web Editor, RPPT section
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> ***Disclaimer: Please note that RPPT listserv participation is not
> restricted to practicing attorneys and may include non-practicing
> attorneys, law students, professionals working in related fields, and
> others.***
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