[WSBARP] WSBARP Digest, Vol 52, Issue 5
Stephen Whitehouse
swhite8893 at aol.com
Tue Jan 8 15:51:10 PST 2019
Patrick, I think Jay is assuming the judgment is against the seller and Ron is assuming it is against the buyer. You don't say which.
Steve
Stephen WhitehouseWhitehouse & Nichols, LLPP.O. Box 1273601 W. Railroad Ave.Shelton, Wa. 98584360-426-5885
swhite8893 at aol.com
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1. Re: Roofing Consultant (scott at scottgthomaslaw.com)
2. Lien priority question (Patrick McDonald)
3. Update on Upcoming Changes to the Real Property and the
Probate & Trust Listservs (Michael Safren)
4. Re: Roofing Consultant (Roger Hawkes)
5. Re: Roofing Consultant (Ron Housh)
6. Re: Lien priority question (Jay Goldstein)
7. Re: Lien priority question (John McCrady)
8. Re: Lien priority question (Richard Holland)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2019 14:34:23 -0800
From: <scott at scottgthomaslaw.com>
To: <ron at housh.org>, "'WSBA Real Property Listserv'"
<wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Roofing Consultant
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Commercial or residential roof?
From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> On Behalf Of Ron Housh
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 9:48 AM
To: 'WSBA Real Property Listserv' <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Roofing Consultant
New case with shoddy roof installation by a roofing contractor.
Any recommendations of a roofing consultant in Snohomish or Skagit County?
Thanks, Ron
I AM TYPICALLY IN THE SEATTLE OFFICE ON TUESDAY AND THURSDAY AND IN THE MOUNT VERNON OFFICE ON MONDAY, WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY
Ronald G. Housh, P.S.
Attorney at Law
Seattle Office:
1420 Fifth Avenue, Suite 3000
Seattle, WA 98101-2393
Phone: 206-381-1341
Fax: 206-464-0461
Email: <mailto:ron at housh.org> ron at housh.org
Mount Vernon Office:
21411 Bluejay Place
Mount Vernon, WA 98274
Phone: 206-235-2459
Email: <mailto:ron at housh.org> ron at housh.org
From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> > On Behalf Of Michael Safren
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Subject: [WSBARP] Winter 2017 Newsletter now available at wsbarppt.com
Hello RPPT Section Members:
The Winter 2017 RPPT Newsletter is now available in the members only section of www.wsbarppt.com <http://www.wsbarppt.com>
Articles inside the Winter 2017 Newsletter include:
* The Nonclaim Statue: Fundamentals and Lessons
* Notes from the Chair
* Recent Developments in Real Property
* Pro-Bono Opportunity with Northwest Justice Project
Regards,
Michael Safren
Web Editor, RPPT section
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Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2019 00:10:23 +0000
From: Patrick McDonald <pmcdonald at podymcdonaldlaw.com>
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: [WSBARP] Lien priority question
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Hi,
I have a question regarding the relative priority of two liens encumbering a property.
If a judgment is entered in the superior court in the county in which the property is located, it is a lien against that property. What if the property is purchased after the judgment is entered and there is a purchase money deed of trust recorded at the same time the property is purchased. Does the judgment that was entered previously take priority over the deed of trust that secures a purchase money loan?
Thanks,
Patrick McDonald
_______________________
Pody & McDonald, PLLC
1200 Fifth Avenue, Suite 1410
Seattle, WA 98101-3106
T: 206-467-1559
F: 206-467-4489
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Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2019 17:25:30 -0800
From: Michael Safren <msafren at gmail.com>
To: "WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv" <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>, WSBA
Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: [WSBARP] Update on Upcoming Changes to the Real Property and
the Probate & Trust Listservs
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Hello Fellow Listservers:
I hope that everyone had a Happy New Year! I wanted to apprise you of some
updates and upcoming changes to both the Real Property and Probate & Trust
Listservs.
Starting February 1st, 2019, both listservs will only be accessible by WSBA
RPPT members. The RPPT Executive Committee decided after much deliberation
and input that the listservs should be an exclusive member benefit.
Starting February 1st, 2019, you will need to login into the
www.wsbarppt.com website using your section login and password in order to
register for the listserv, access the listserv archives, and/or unsubscribe
to the listserv.
Further, the Executive Committee has approved the adoption of new
guidelines, rules, and general etiquette for the listserv. These will be
posted on www.wsbarppt,com under the listserv tab for all members to see
and review.
Lastly, beginning on February 1st, 2019, all listserv postings will contain
a disclaimer in the footer reminding all that while the listservs will be
restricted to RPPT section members, not all section members are practicing
attorneys. Section membership is open to law students, non-practicing
members of the bar, and even some non-attorney professionals in related
fields such as title officers, real estate agents, and escrow agents.
The Executive Committee believes that these changes will improve the
listserv experience for section members and deliver value to members as one
of many available section member benefits.
I hope to make the transition to the members only listserv as seamless as
possible If you experience any difficulty during the transition, please
feel free to email me and I will do my best to respond and assist you.
Kind regards,
Michael Safren
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2019 03:24:05 +0000
From: Roger Hawkes <Roger at law-hawks.com>
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Roofing Consultant
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Me, too. Please post to list or send to me directly also.
Roger Hawkes, WSBA 5173
Hawkes Law Firm, P.S.
19944 Ballinger Way NE, Suite #100
Shoreline, WA 98155
www.hawkeslawfirm.com<http://www.hawkeslawfirm.com/>
206 367 5000 Office
206 367 4005 Fax
From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> On Behalf Of Ron Housh
Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 9:48 AM
To: 'WSBA Real Property Listserv' <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Roofing Consultant
New case with shoddy roof installation by a roofing contractor.
Any recommendations of a roofing consultant in Snohomish or Skagit County?
Thanks, Ron
I AM TYPICALLY IN THE SEATTLE OFFICE ON TUESDAY AND THURSDAY AND IN THE MOUNT VERNON OFFICE ON MONDAY, WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY
Ronald G. Housh, P.S.
Attorney at Law
Seattle Office:
1420 Fifth Avenue, Suite 3000
Seattle, WA 98101-2393
Phone: 206-381-1341
Fax: 206-464-0461
Email: ron at housh.org<mailto:ron at housh.org>
Mount Vernon Office:
21411 Bluejay Place
Mount Vernon, WA 98274
Phone: 206-235-2459
Email: ron at housh.org<mailto:ron at housh.org>
From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> On Behalf Of Michael Safren
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2018 9:46 PM
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>>; WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>>
Subject: [WSBARP] Winter 2017 Newsletter now available at wsbarppt.com
Hello RPPT Section Members:
The Winter 2017 RPPT Newsletter is now available in the members only section of www.wsbarppt.com<http://www.wsbarppt.com>
Articles inside the Winter 2017 Newsletter include:
* The Nonclaim Statue: Fundamentals and Lessons
* Notes from the Chair
* Recent Developments in Real Property
* Pro-Bono Opportunity with Northwest Justice Project
Regards,
Michael Safren
Web Editor, RPPT section
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Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2019 08:02:54 -0800
From: Ron Housh <ron at housh.org>
To: scott at scottgthomaslaw.com
Cc: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Roofing Consultant
Message-ID: <9CD7B6CD-7861-40B1-AE9D-005C8E59DE1B at housh.org>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Residential
Sent from my iPhone
> On Jan 7, 2019, at 2:34 PM, <scott at scottgthomaslaw.com> <scott at scottgthomaslaw.com> wrote:
>
> Commercial or residential roof?
>
> From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> On Behalf Of Ron Housh
> Sent: Monday, January 7, 2019 9:48 AM
> To: 'WSBA Real Property Listserv' <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Roofing Consultant
>
> New case with shoddy roof installation by a roofing contractor.
>
> Any recommendations of a roofing consultant in Snohomish or Skagit County?
>
> Thanks, Ron
>
>
> I AM TYPICALLY IN THE SEATTLE OFFICE ON TUESDAY AND THURSDAY AND IN THE MOUNT VERNON OFFICE ON MONDAY, WEDNESDAY AND FRIDAY
>
> Ronald G. Housh, P.S.
> Attorney at Law
>
> Seattle Office:
> 1420 Fifth Avenue, Suite 3000
> Seattle, WA 98101-2393
> Phone: 206-381-1341
> Fax: 206-464-0461
> Email: ron at housh.org
>
> Mount Vernon Office:
> 21411 Bluejay Place
> Mount Vernon, WA 98274
> Phone: 206-235-2459
> Email: ron at housh.org
>
>
>
>
>
> From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> On Behalf Of Michael Safren
> Sent: Monday, May 07, 2018 9:46 PM
> To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>; WSBA Probate & Trust Listserv <wsbapt at lists.wsbarppt.com>
> Subject: [WSBARP] Winter 2017 Newsletter now available at wsbarppt.com
>
> Hello RPPT Section Members:
>
> The Winter 2017 RPPT Newsletter is now available in the members only section of www.wsbarppt.com
>
> Articles inside the Winter 2017 Newsletter include:
> The Nonclaim Statue: Fundamentals and Lessons
> Notes from the Chair
> Recent Developments in Real Property
> Pro-Bono Opportunity with Northwest Justice Project
>
> Regards,
> Michael Safren
> Web Editor, RPPT section
>
>
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Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2019 17:32:25 +0000
From: Jay Goldstein <jay at jaglaw.net>
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Lien priority question
Message-ID: <6549E0FE-4E6F-469B-A373-6EBDB7C146EB at jaglaw.net>
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First in time, first in right.
See RCW 65.08.060(3) and
65.08.070
J
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Goldstein Law Office
Jay Goldstein
1800 Cooper Point Rd SW #8
Olympia, WA 98502
360 352 1970
Jay at jaglaw.net<mailto:Jay at jaglaw.net>
Jaglaw.net<http://Jaglaw.net>
On Jan 7, 2019, at 4:11 PM, Patrick McDonald <pmcdonald at podymcdonaldlaw.com<mailto:pmcdonald at podymcdonaldlaw.com>> wrote:
Hi,
I have a question regarding the relative priority of two liens encumbering a property.
If a judgment is entered in the superior court in the county in which the property is located, it is a lien against that property. What if the property is purchased after the judgment is entered and there is a purchase money deed of trust recorded at the same time the property is purchased. Does the judgment that was entered previously take priority over the deed of trust that secures a purchase money loan?
Thanks,
Patrick McDonald
_______________________
Pody & McDonald, PLLC
1200 Fifth Avenue, Suite 1410
Seattle, WA 98101-3106
T: 206-467-1559
F: 206-467-4489
_______________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2019 11:29:11 -0800
From: John McCrady <j.mccrady at pstitle.com>
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Lien priority question
Message-ID:
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As a purchase money mortgage, it takes priority against previously entered judgments against the purchaser.
Sorry, I don?t have access to the authority for that statement right now
John McCrady
Counsel
Puget Sound Title Company
5350 Orchard Street West
University Place WA 98467
253-476-5721
j.mccrady at pstitle.com
From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Jay Goldstein
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 9:32 AM
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Lien priority question
First in time, first in right.
See RCW 65.08.060(3) and
65.08.070
J
Sent from my iPad
Goldstein Law Office
Jay Goldstein
1800 Cooper Point Rd SW #8
Olympia, WA 98502
360 352 1970
Jay at jaglaw.net<mailto:Jay at jaglaw.net>
Jaglaw.net<http://Jaglaw.net>
On Jan 7, 2019, at 4:11 PM, Patrick McDonald <pmcdonald at podymcdonaldlaw.com<mailto:pmcdonald at podymcdonaldlaw.com>> wrote:
Hi,
I have a question regarding the relative priority of two liens encumbering a property.
If a judgment is entered in the superior court in the county in which the property is located, it is a lien against that property. What if the property is purchased after the judgment is entered and there is a purchase money deed of trust recorded at the same time the property is purchased. Does the judgment that was entered previously take priority over the deed of trust that secures a purchase money loan?
Thanks,
Patrick McDonald
_______________________
Pody & McDonald, PLLC
1200 Fifth Avenue, Suite 1410
Seattle, WA 98101-3106
T: 206-467-1559
F: 206-467-4489
_______________________________________________
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Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2019 19:42:19 +0000
From: Richard Holland <rich at pnwle.com>
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Lien priority question
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John,
Was it case law? I want to be clear I understand what you are saying. If ?Jack? wants to buy a house and has a $50k judgment from 2015 out there, nonetheless the Deed of Trust for the loan taken out in 2019 will have priority on title over the judgments? And, if that is what you intended to say, does that hold true if, for example, the judgment was not only entered but actually recorded in 2015 (in my example)?
Rich Holland
From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> On Behalf Of John McCrady
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 11:29 AM
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Lien priority question
As a purchase money mortgage, it takes priority against previously entered judgments against the purchaser.
Sorry, I don?t have access to the authority for that statement right now
John McCrady
Counsel
Puget Sound Title Company
5350 Orchard Street West
University Place WA 98467
253-476-5721
j.mccrady at pstitle.com<mailto:j.mccrady at pstitle.com>
From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> [mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Jay Goldstein
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2019 9:32 AM
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Lien priority question
First in time, first in right.
See RCW 65.08.060(3) and
65.08.070
J
Sent from my iPad
Goldstein Law Office
Jay Goldstein
1800 Cooper Point Rd SW #8
Olympia, WA 98502
360 352 1970
Jay at jaglaw.net<mailto:Jay at jaglaw.net>
Jaglaw.net<http://Jaglaw.net>
On Jan 7, 2019, at 4:11 PM, Patrick McDonald <pmcdonald at podymcdonaldlaw.com<mailto:pmcdonald at podymcdonaldlaw.com>> wrote:
Hi,
I have a question regarding the relative priority of two liens encumbering a property.
If a judgment is entered in the superior court in the county in which the property is located, it is a lien against that property. What if the property is purchased after the judgment is entered and there is a purchase money deed of trust recorded at the same time the property is purchased. Does the judgment that was entered previously take priority over the deed of trust that secures a purchase money loan?
Thanks,
Patrick McDonald
_______________________
Pody & McDonald, PLLC
1200 Fifth Avenue, Suite 1410
Seattle, WA 98101-3106
T: 206-467-1559
F: 206-467-4489
_______________________________________________
WSBARP mailing list
WSBARP at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:WSBARP at lists.wsbarppt.com>
http://mailman.fsr.com/mailman/listinfo/wsbarp
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