[WSBARP] WSBARP Digest, Vol 63, Issue 7

Stephen Whitehouse swhite8893 at aol.com
Tue Dec 10 09:37:46 PST 2019


Cat,       Adverse possession is a statute of limitations based theory and the filing of a law suit always tolls the running of the statute of limitations as long as service is accomplished within 90 days. As long as service is had within that time frame, it is then deemed commenced when it was filed.
Steve

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Today's Topics:

  1. Deed Restriction Question (Patrick McDonald)
  2. Re: Deed Restriction Question (Kaitlyn Jackson)
  3. Question on AP/PE Cases (Catherine Clark)
  4. Re: Deed Restriction Question (Rob Wilson-Hoss)
  5. Re: Question on AP/PE Cases (Craig Blackmon)
  6. Re: Deed Restriction Question (nestor at pplsweb.com)
  7. Re: Deed Restriction Question (Claudia A Gowan)
  8. Re: Deed Restriction Question (Law Office of Shaun Watchie Perry)
  9. Need referral for forensic engineer for water intrusion
      (Law Office of Shaun Watchie Perry)
  10. Re: Deed Restriction Question (Eric Nelsen)


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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 17:49:20 +0000
From: Patrick McDonald <pmcdonald at podymcdonaldlaw.com>
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Subject: [WSBARP] Deed Restriction Question
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Hi,

We have a client that would like to transfer an oddly shaped lot to a neighboring property owner but would like to prohibit the owner from being able to build on the lot. Is it possible to transfer title to the lot by quit claim deed that includes such a restriction? Does anyone have a form that they would be willing to share for this purpose?

Thanks,

Patrick McDonald
_______________________
Pody & McDonald, PLLC
1200 Fifth Avenue, Suite 1410
Seattle, WA 98101-3106
T: 206-467-1559
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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 09:54:17 -0800
From: Kaitlyn Jackson <kaitlyn at dimensionlaw.com>
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Deed Restriction Question
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I would love to know the answer to this, too!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 9, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Patrick McDonald <pmcdonald at podymcdonaldlaw.com> wrote:
> 
> ?
> Hi,
>  
> We have a client that would like to transfer an oddly shaped lot to a neighboring property owner but would like to prohibit the owner from being able to build on the lot. Is it possible to transfer title to the lot by quit claim deed that includes such a restriction? Does anyone have a form that they would be willing to share for this purpose?
>  
> Thanks,
> 
> Patrick McDonald
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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 18:25:48 +0000
From: Catherine Clark <Cat at loccc.com>
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All:

I'm involved in a case where a party has filed a dec action seeking to stop an AP/PE claim by my clients.  The action was filed a week before the SOL ran.  My client has continued to use the property in question.  No TRO or preliminary injunction has been sought seeking to stop this use.

My question is does the mere filing of a lawsuit toll the SOL or is more needed?  I ask because the essence of an AP/PE claim is use.  Seems to me that the filing of suit is notice of hostility but without more, does not cut off actual use.

This has long been a pet issue for me and now I think I have a shot at the question.  All responses appreciated.

Catherine "Cat" Clark
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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 10:44:03 -0800
From: "Rob Wilson-Hoss" <rob at hctc.com>
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Patrick, we have done several. There is no form; it is just a Deed with
Restrictions, I do two sections, one for the deed language, and then one for
the restriction language, have both sets of owners sign it, and index it to
both lots, of course. We do this with easements as well. They can be simple
or extensive restrictions. Because it has two titles, you will need two
recording fees. 

 

Rob

 

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Subject: [WSBARP] Deed Restriction Question

 

Hi, 

 

We have a client that would like to transfer an oddly shaped lot to a
neighboring property owner but would like to prohibit the owner from being
able to build on the lot. Is it possible to transfer title to the lot by
quit claim deed that includes such a restriction? Does anyone have a form
that they would be willing to share for this purpose?

 

Thanks, 


Patrick McDonald

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1200 Fifth Avenue, Suite 1410

Seattle, WA 98101-3106

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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 10:56:55 -0800
From: Craig Blackmon <craig at lawofficeofcraigblackmon.com>
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Question on AP/PE Cases
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Seems to me the answer is "No." Plaintiff should have filed for trespass
and ejectment. I agree with your analysis that the remedy sought failed to
toll the SOL. A "declaratory action" results only in a court's
determination of legal rights and obligations. So actually by the time the
Court decides this suit, the decision should be in your client's favor.

I am curious to hear the counterargument.

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On Mon, Dec 9, 2019 at 10:29 AM Catherine Clark <Cat at loccc.com> wrote:

> All:
>
> I'm involved in a case where a party has filed a dec action seeking to
> stop an AP/PE claim by my clients.  The action was filed a week before the
> SOL ran.  My client has continued to use the property in question.  No TRO
> or preliminary injunction has been sought seeking to stop this use.
>
> My question is does the mere filing of a lawsuit toll the SOL or is more
> needed?  I ask because the essence of an AP/PE claim is use.  Seems to me
> that the filing of suit is notice of hostility but without more, does not
> cut off actual use.
>
> This has long been a pet issue for me and now I think I have a shot at the
> question.  All responses appreciated.
>
> Catherine "Cat" Clark
> Law Office of Catherine C. Clark PLLC
> 2200 Sixth Avenue, Suite 1250
> Seattle, WA 98121
> Phone:  (206) 838-2528
> Cell:  (206) 409-8938
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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 11:06:02 -0800
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You can create any restriction and be as drastic as include a right of reverter.

 

 

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From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> On Behalf Of Kaitlyn Jackson
Sent: Monday, December 9, 2019 9:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Deed Restriction Question

 

I would love to know the answer to this, too!

Sent from my iPhone





On Dec 9, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Patrick McDonald <pmcdonald at podymcdonaldlaw.com <mailto:pmcdonald at podymcdonaldlaw.com> > wrote:

? 

Hi, 

 

We have a client that would like to transfer an oddly shaped lot to a neighboring property owner but would like to prohibit the owner from being able to build on the lot. Is it possible to transfer title to the lot by quit claim deed that includes such a restriction? Does anyone have a form that they would be willing to share for this purpose?

 

Thanks, 


Patrick McDonald

_______________________

Pody & McDonald, PLLC

1200 Fifth Avenue, Suite 1410

Seattle, WA 98101-3106

T: 206-467-1559

F: 206-467-4489

 

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 19:14:14 +0000
From: Claudia A Gowan <claudia at cagowanlaw.com>
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv <wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com>
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Deed Restriction Question
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Patrick, enforceability is the issue with these types of restrictions. In practical terms, it is difficult to enforce the terms, perhaps not as much during the ownership by the original grantor and grantee, but down the line.

Best, Claudia


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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Deed Restriction Question

You can create any restriction and be as drastic as include a right of reverter.


Nestor Gorfinkel, Attorney at Law
Licensed in Washington & Florida
Florida Civil-Law (International) Notary

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From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> <wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>> On Behalf Of Kaitlyn Jackson
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Deed Restriction Question

I would love to know the answer to this, too!
Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 9, 2019, at 9:53 AM, Patrick McDonald <pmcdonald at podymcdonaldlaw.com<mailto:pmcdonald at podymcdonaldlaw.com>> wrote:
?
Hi,

We have a client that would like to transfer an oddly shaped lot to a neighboring property owner but would like to prohibit the owner from being able to build on the lot. Is it possible to transfer title to the lot by quit claim deed that includes such a restriction? Does anyone have a form that they would be willing to share for this purpose?

Thanks,

Patrick McDonald
_______________________
Pody & McDonald, PLLC
1200 Fifth Avenue, Suite 1410
Seattle, WA 98101-3106
T: 206-467-1559
F: 206-467-4489

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 11:19:03 -0800
From: Law Office of Shaun Watchie Perry <shaunwperry at swp-law.com>
To: wsbarp at lists.wsbarppt.com, pmcdonald at podymcdonaldlaw.com
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Deed Restriction Question
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Hello Patrick,

My concern would be using a quit claim deed to establish a deed 
restriction. Seems to me a bargain and sale deed is more appropriate.

I would think about? FIRST drafting a seperate restrictive covenant and 
record against both lots, before the conveyance out.? That way you can 
insert remedies including injunctive relief and attorney's fees if the 
grantee lot violates the building restriction as well as insert other 
provisions. I would also look into title insurance (perhaps an 
endorsement to the existing grantor property policy)? to insure that the 
grantor lot is so benefited (if this is available). Check with your 
title officer.

Good luck and let us know what you decide.

-Shaun

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On 12/9/2019 10:44 AM, Rob Wilson-Hoss wrote:
>
> Patrick, we have done several. There is no form; it is just a Deed 
> with Restrictions, I do two sections, one for the deed language, and 
> then one for the restriction language, have both sets of owners sign 
> it, and index it to both lots, of course. We do this with easements as 
> well. They can be simple or extensive restrictions. Because it has two 
> titles, you will need two recording fees.
>
> Rob
>
> Robert D. Wilson-Hoss
>
> Hoss & Wilson-Hoss, LLP
>
> 236 West Birch Street
>
> Shelton, WA 98584
>
> 360 426-2999
>
> www.hossandwilson-hoss.com
>
> rob at hctc.com
>
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> *Subject:* [WSBARP] Deed Restriction Question
>
> Hi,
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> We have a client that would like to transfer an oddly shaped lot to a 
> neighboring property owner but would like to prohibit the owner from 
> being able to build on the lot. Is it possible to transfer title to 
> the lot by quit claim deed that includes such a restriction? Does 
> anyone have a form that they would be willing to share for this purpose?
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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 11:28:43 -0800
From: Law Office of Shaun Watchie Perry <shaunwperry at swp-law.com>
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This is a follow up to an earlier post.

In a spat with neighbor over water intrusion damaging my client's 
property. Insurance involved and insurance Company has retained Donan 
Engineering as its expert. We need our own. Any recommendations, please?

Thanks, Shaun

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Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2019 19:42:52 +0000
From: Eric Nelsen <Eric at sayrelawoffices.com>
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Deed Restriction Question
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Patrick-I agree with Shaun that the separate restrictive covenant is probably the better way to go, rather than putting conditions or restrictions in the deed itself. I think that separate restrictions are usually easier to enforce as a practical matter, because everyone seems to understand them better, compared to the "fee on a condition subsequent"-type estate analysis that results when restrictions are in the conveyance deed.

Sincerely,

Eric

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Hello Patrick,

My concern would be using a quit claim deed to establish a deed restriction. Seems to me a bargain and sale deed is more appropriate.

I would think about  FIRST drafting a seperate restrictive covenant and record against both lots, before the conveyance out.  That way you can insert remedies including injunctive relief and attorney's fees if the grantee lot violates the building restriction as well as insert other provisions. I would also look into title insurance (perhaps an endorsement to the existing grantor property policy)  to insure that the grantor lot is so benefited (if this is available). Check with your title officer.

Good luck and let us know what you decide.

-Shaun
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On 12/9/2019 10:44 AM, Rob Wilson-Hoss wrote:
Patrick, we have done several. There is no form; it is just a Deed with Restrictions, I do two sections, one for the deed language, and then one for the restriction language, have both sets of owners sign it, and index it to both lots, of course. We do this with easements as well. They can be simple or extensive restrictions. Because it has two titles, you will need two recording fees.

Rob

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Hi,

We have a client that would like to transfer an oddly shaped lot to a neighboring property owner but would like to prohibit the owner from being able to build on the lot. Is it possible to transfer title to the lot by quit claim deed that includes such a restriction? Does anyone have a form that they would be willing to share for this purpose?

Thanks,

Patrick McDonald
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