[WSBARP] illegal subdivision

[John McCrady]

My experience is that all is stalled until one of the statutory subdivision procedures is followed, and one of the difficulties is getting all the county entities to agree on a procedure.

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Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 12:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] illegal subdivision

John,

The issue I have had is at the County Assessor level and they won't segregate the tax parcel out to the Grantee without approval by the County Prosecuting Attorney, so can't get a tax parcel set up.

Sincerely,

Tom

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Sent: Friday, December 30, 2016 11:16 AM
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] illegal subdivision

I agree with Eric's analysis.
RCW 58.17.030  states that "every subdivision shall comply with the provisions of this chapter......"
RCW 58.17.300 states that "any person......who violates any provision of this chapter.....shall be guilty of a gross misdemeanor and each sale...or transfer....shall be deemed a separate and distinct offense."
I am not aware of any authority holding that a transfer in violation of the subdivision code is void or voidable.  If anyone is aware of such authority I would love to hear about it.

John McCrady
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Subject: Re: [WSBARP] illegal subdivision

I am pretty sure deed is valid--a deed just conveys real property even if it's just a postage stamp of land that it describes, and zoning/building codes and "legal tax parcels" are all just overlayers of regulation. I think what you have is a tax parcel that is owned not by undivided interests in the whole (tenants in common), but in separate chunks--I think that would be called ownership in severalty?

It's really a category problem--depends on what you choose to define as "parcel." "Parcel" could mean the land described in a deed, or it could mean a tax parcel as defined by the county. The county won't recognize the deed parcel as a tax parcel, so for all tax and administrative purposes, the tax parcel is owned partly by one person and partly by another.

Clear as mud--

Sincerely,

Eric

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Subject: [WSBARP] illegal subdivision

Listmates,  I am wondering what rights are created when property is transferred via an illegal subdivision.  By example, someone transfers the north one third of a lot to a buyer.  No BLA, no short plat, just a deed.  My initial presumption is that buyer owns the property but just can't get a building permit.  Is the transfer void on its face or voidable or neither?  I am being lazy tonight and thought I would ask those who may have already researched the matter.  Thanks, Craig

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