[WSBARP] Electronic Signatures (Docusign vs Adobe Echosign)

Tue May 5 12:32:33 PDT 2015

Unless of course the County uses E-recording …

From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com [mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com] On Behalf Of Rob Rowley
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 12:14 PM
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Electronic Signatures (Docusign vs Adobe Echosign)

It is not a wet ink signature that one could get recorded at the auditor's office.

It is an electronic signature back by state and federal law.  Though, the operative question in every attorney’s mind is whether you get to litigate those type of things and just how sophisticated are the folks on the bench.  Probably in Seattle less of an issue.

The real estate brokers have been using electronic signatures for years without much issue.  I see no reason the Bar cannot be right up there with them.

I actually just did my first electronic signatures for out-of-state personal guarantor on one of my personal residential rentals leases.  I still required the local tenant to sign a wet ink version of the lease.

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From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> [mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>] On Behalf Of MK Henderson
Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 11:25 AM
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Electronic Signatures (Docusign vs Adobe Echosign)

WIth a signature signed in this way is the document a copy or an original?

On Mon, May 4, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Rob Rowley <rob at rowleylegal.com<mailto:rob at rowleylegal.com>> wrote:
Matt.

As a post-script I ended up going with the Adobe product as it is only $25.96 for an annual license versus a lot more with Docusign.  I’m loving the ability to send out documents (and pleadings/orders) for also immediate signature and return.

Adobe rebranded the product and call it something else these days. See below.

   Subscription order details:

[Image removed by sender. Adobe Send for Signature, Annual]

Adobe Send for Signature, Annual (Other,Multiple Languages)

Subscription price

US$23.88/annual

Tax

US$2.08/annual

Total

US$25.96/annual

[cid:image001.jpg at 01D0872F.8E050250]Robert R. Rowley | Attorney at Law
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From: wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com> [mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com<mailto:wsbarp-bounces at lists.wsbarppt.com>] On Behalf Of Matt Albrecht
Sent: Friday, April 03, 2015 10:58 AM
To: WSBA Real Property Listserv
Subject: Re: [WSBARP] Electronic Sigantures (Docusign vs Adobe Echosign)

I also use Echosign and have for about 2 years now and it has worked flawlessly.  The integration with the desktop Adobe program is nice but a bit unwieldy.  I still find it easier to just finish my part in Adobe and save it, then my assistant uploads it and places the signature/initial/text boxes where they are needed and sends it out from the Echosign web site.

I've had it work well even for farmers who initially complained they didn't even have a computer (but they had email on their phone).  Next thing we knew it was returned signed and he called in saying he was surprised how easy that was and it was "pretty slick."  He just did it with his finger on the phone and the program worked seamlessly from the email he received.

But now Echosign I think is being rolled into the new Adobe Cloud subscription so it might be an even better deal.  I think $175/yr for full service Echosign and a subscription to Professional Adobe V. XI (about $600 otherwise).

On Thu, Apr 2, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Rowley, Rob <rob at rowleylegal.com<mailto:rob at rowleylegal.com>> wrote:
What is the consensus on using either of those services for general legal agreements (fee agreements, etc) for a small practitioner? As a 'dirt' practitioner I'm familiar with Docusign for my real esate broker clients. (e.g., problematic for technologically challenged clients). Thinking of catching up with my broker clients.

Thanks.

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